Guy Pearce and John Hillcoat Discuss "The Proposition"
Director John Hillcoat had a big ambition when he undertook "The Proposition": a Western with a truly Aussie sensibility.
"It's the Australian West," he said. "We've tried to reclaim it for ourselves."
"The Proposition," opened in limited release in the U.S. on May 5 after an enthusiastic response at the Toronto and Sundance film festivals.
In the film, set in the Outback in the late 1800s, Charley Burns (Guy Pearce) is captured by the authorities, and given an ultimatum by Captain Stanley (Ray Winstone): if he slays his older brother Arthur (Danny Huston) within a week, his younger brother Mikey will be set free. If not, Mikey dies.
"The Proposition" is filled with sharp supporting performances by the likes of Emily Watson and John Hurt, as well as some startling cinematography, a haunting score by Nick Cave (who wrote the screenplay), and fascinating characters, whose capacities for good and evil deeds shift convincingly.

Guy Peace in "The Proposition"
Australia's colonial history leant itself to a lot of potential for drama, from the harshness of the climate to the settlers' condescending, often violent attitudes toward the Aboriginal population. Hillcoat said he wanted to make a film that was true to history but also worked dramatically.
"It's been a dream to do a film out in the elements like that and trying to tackle that part of our history because it hasn't really been seen on the screen like that," he said.
Hillcoat said he was inspired by revisionist Westerns of the 1970s, and films that displayed a realistic, sometimes harsh frontier, like Robert Altman's "McCabe & Mrs. Miller," Sam Peckinpah's "The Wild Bunch," and Terrence Malick's "Days of Heaven."
"What I loved about Peckinpah and Altman and Malick is there's a link to reality, and what the times were, a kind of truthfulness about what it would have been like back then," he said.
For years, Hillcoat had wanted Cave to do the score for such a Western in an Australian setting. They agreed that Cave would have a go at the script, but Hillcoat thought it would be a loose outline that would later be fashioned into a screenplay. Over a matter of a few weeks, Cave came up with the scenario.
"Once he started, out it came, the story of the brothers and the central conflict that we could hang all this stuff on," he said. "Nick surprised me and himself."

Nick Cave and John Hillcoat
When Pearce got the script, he thought it was something special.
"It was so beautifully written," he said. "It was so poetic and so evocative, which is very rare. It was very easy for my imagination to be fueled and to get a sense of what it was they were trying to tell."
Pearce was also attracted to the moral complexity of the story.
"Obviously the scenario is quite extreme and rather harrowing," he said. "It almost seems like an impossible task to contemplate how one might choose one brother over another or one family member over another, particularly when it comes to having to kill [someone]."
The moral ambiguity and violence in the script, as well as the plan to shoot the film in the Outback, made the film a tough sell, Hillcoat said.
"It was incredibly hard to finance because of the tone and the script," he said. "The financers knew it was a logistical risk to go out there and build sets in that kind of territory. By the time the money got together and we finally had everyone ready to go, we had slid into the beginning of the summer."
Trouble struck early when Hillcoat and several members of the crew were involved in a serious car accident, in which their vehicle hit some rough terrain and rolled over three times.
"They'd thought I had broken my neck," he said. "Twenty-four hours later, I greeted the key cast that had arrived on a charter flight. I had a neck brace and black eyes. That was just the beginning."

Guy Pearce and Danny Huston
The environment posed many serious challenges; temperatures reached well into the 100s, and many scenes were shot at night because the cameras were too hot to touch. The week after production, fierce winds leveled the majority of the sets. So as rough as the conditions were, things could have been worse, Hillcoat said.
"Luck has a major part when it has to do with the developments," he said. "Those strong winds could have come at any moment when we were shooting, so we were lucky."
And the difficulty of the shoot created both a sense of camaraderie among the cast members and a greater feeling for the material.
"All that stuff adds to what you're doing," Pearce said "The environment really informs what you're doing. The environment and the world that these people live in and the level of survival is far more extreme than what we know it to be today, [although] certainly [it is] for some cultures, not for others. It was a real fascinating sort of journey to enter into that."
"It was one of those situations where everyone knew it was going to be quite extraordinary," Hillcoat said. "Everyone kind of bonded rather than tore each other apart."
Much of the good feeling on the set came from Hillcoat's method of directing, Pearce said.
"He really knows what he wants, and what he wants is very true and honest performances," he said. "He's very open to having you find that very true and honest place. He certainly doesn't limit you in your honest interpretation of the work. He's my kind of director."

Guy Pearce and John Hurt
And in getting to the truth of the material, the film often depicts some very graphic floggings, shootings, and spearings. But Pearce said it's the tone of the film, the sudden but inevitable flare-ups, that make the violence seem more shocking.
"Some say, 'Oh, the film is violent.' I think on some level, people are inadvertently complimenting the film by saying that, because we're talking about the fact that it actually is effective," he said. "There are plenty of films out there that are violent, where people run around with machine guns and shoot the hell out of everybody, and there's no aftermath. To me, that's disrespectful in film. It's just like a video game.
"To me, this feels complete in the addressing of violence: You have the lull before the storm, you have the really horrific storm, and you have the cleanup afterwards," he continued. "There's probably less violence in this film than in the majority of other films. It's just that when it happens, it feels real."
The violence feels more real because of the setting, Pearce said.
"It's kind of a looming violence," he said. "We know that this world is a harsh and dangerous one, and it's one that's fraught with all sorts of difficulties in regards to surviving. You feel quite troubled at the idea that potentially anything violent could happen. It's that looming violence that adds up for people when they watch it."
Regardless, Pearce said he feels American audiences will find a lot in the story that will resonate.
"I feel it should particularly appeal to Americans because on some level, there's a similar frontier environment, [with] people really being out of place and trying to make a home in such a harsh environment that's not their own," he said. "And really, the story's about human emotion rather than necessarily a historical document."

Emily Watson
Those complex emotions are in some ways incongruous with the idea of the Western in film, with exception of the 1970s anti-Westerns, Hillcoat said.
"Your sympathies keep swinging between some of the characters, and that's very unusual because normally the American West is put into very black and white terms," he said.
And Hillcoat said he feels that dealing in black and white is a problem in today's political climate, one that "The Proposition" refutes.
"Life isn't like that," he said. "I know Bush is trying to tell everyone life is like that. Part of the mood of all that in a political context [is] empire building and the consequences of violence. I'm hoping it will ring a chord here [in the U.S.]."
And it has certainly made a big impression on Pearce; he said the film, from the cinematography to the music to his co-stars' performances make "The Proposition" a particularly special film for him.
"It's by far my favorite film that I've ever been in," he said. "Look, that's not to take anything away from 'Memento' or 'L.A. Confidential,' because I think they're both extraordinary pieces of work. But there's something about this that moves me in a way I haven't felt before.
"I have to be fair, because I haven't watched the other [films] for a couple years," he continued. "[But] there's something so raw. Maybe it means more to me because it's an Australian story."
Still, Pearce said, "It's a story about human emotions, so it doesn't really matter where it's set."
"It's the Australian West," he said. "We've tried to reclaim it for ourselves."
"The Proposition," opened in limited release in the U.S. on May 5 after an enthusiastic response at the Toronto and Sundance film festivals.
In the film, set in the Outback in the late 1800s, Charley Burns (Guy Pearce) is captured by the authorities, and given an ultimatum by Captain Stanley (Ray Winstone): if he slays his older brother Arthur (Danny Huston) within a week, his younger brother Mikey will be set free. If not, Mikey dies.
"The Proposition" is filled with sharp supporting performances by the likes of Emily Watson and John Hurt, as well as some startling cinematography, a haunting score by Nick Cave (who wrote the screenplay), and fascinating characters, whose capacities for good and evil deeds shift convincingly.

Guy Peace in "The Proposition"
Australia's colonial history leant itself to a lot of potential for drama, from the harshness of the climate to the settlers' condescending, often violent attitudes toward the Aboriginal population. Hillcoat said he wanted to make a film that was true to history but also worked dramatically.
"It's been a dream to do a film out in the elements like that and trying to tackle that part of our history because it hasn't really been seen on the screen like that," he said.
Hillcoat said he was inspired by revisionist Westerns of the 1970s, and films that displayed a realistic, sometimes harsh frontier, like Robert Altman's "McCabe & Mrs. Miller," Sam Peckinpah's "The Wild Bunch," and Terrence Malick's "Days of Heaven."
"What I loved about Peckinpah and Altman and Malick is there's a link to reality, and what the times were, a kind of truthfulness about what it would have been like back then," he said.
For years, Hillcoat had wanted Cave to do the score for such a Western in an Australian setting. They agreed that Cave would have a go at the script, but Hillcoat thought it would be a loose outline that would later be fashioned into a screenplay. Over a matter of a few weeks, Cave came up with the scenario.
"Once he started, out it came, the story of the brothers and the central conflict that we could hang all this stuff on," he said. "Nick surprised me and himself."

Nick Cave and John Hillcoat
When Pearce got the script, he thought it was something special.
"It was so beautifully written," he said. "It was so poetic and so evocative, which is very rare. It was very easy for my imagination to be fueled and to get a sense of what it was they were trying to tell."
Pearce was also attracted to the moral complexity of the story.
"Obviously the scenario is quite extreme and rather harrowing," he said. "It almost seems like an impossible task to contemplate how one might choose one brother over another or one family member over another, particularly when it comes to having to kill [someone]."
The moral ambiguity and violence in the script, as well as the plan to shoot the film in the Outback, made the film a tough sell, Hillcoat said.
"It was incredibly hard to finance because of the tone and the script," he said. "The financers knew it was a logistical risk to go out there and build sets in that kind of territory. By the time the money got together and we finally had everyone ready to go, we had slid into the beginning of the summer."
Trouble struck early when Hillcoat and several members of the crew were involved in a serious car accident, in which their vehicle hit some rough terrain and rolled over three times.
"They'd thought I had broken my neck," he said. "Twenty-four hours later, I greeted the key cast that had arrived on a charter flight. I had a neck brace and black eyes. That was just the beginning."

Guy Pearce and Danny Huston
The environment posed many serious challenges; temperatures reached well into the 100s, and many scenes were shot at night because the cameras were too hot to touch. The week after production, fierce winds leveled the majority of the sets. So as rough as the conditions were, things could have been worse, Hillcoat said.
"Luck has a major part when it has to do with the developments," he said. "Those strong winds could have come at any moment when we were shooting, so we were lucky."
And the difficulty of the shoot created both a sense of camaraderie among the cast members and a greater feeling for the material.
"All that stuff adds to what you're doing," Pearce said "The environment really informs what you're doing. The environment and the world that these people live in and the level of survival is far more extreme than what we know it to be today, [although] certainly [it is] for some cultures, not for others. It was a real fascinating sort of journey to enter into that."
"It was one of those situations where everyone knew it was going to be quite extraordinary," Hillcoat said. "Everyone kind of bonded rather than tore each other apart."
Much of the good feeling on the set came from Hillcoat's method of directing, Pearce said.
"He really knows what he wants, and what he wants is very true and honest performances," he said. "He's very open to having you find that very true and honest place. He certainly doesn't limit you in your honest interpretation of the work. He's my kind of director."

Guy Pearce and John Hurt
And in getting to the truth of the material, the film often depicts some very graphic floggings, shootings, and spearings. But Pearce said it's the tone of the film, the sudden but inevitable flare-ups, that make the violence seem more shocking.
"Some say, 'Oh, the film is violent.' I think on some level, people are inadvertently complimenting the film by saying that, because we're talking about the fact that it actually is effective," he said. "There are plenty of films out there that are violent, where people run around with machine guns and shoot the hell out of everybody, and there's no aftermath. To me, that's disrespectful in film. It's just like a video game.
"To me, this feels complete in the addressing of violence: You have the lull before the storm, you have the really horrific storm, and you have the cleanup afterwards," he continued. "There's probably less violence in this film than in the majority of other films. It's just that when it happens, it feels real."
The violence feels more real because of the setting, Pearce said.
"It's kind of a looming violence," he said. "We know that this world is a harsh and dangerous one, and it's one that's fraught with all sorts of difficulties in regards to surviving. You feel quite troubled at the idea that potentially anything violent could happen. It's that looming violence that adds up for people when they watch it."
Regardless, Pearce said he feels American audiences will find a lot in the story that will resonate.
"I feel it should particularly appeal to Americans because on some level, there's a similar frontier environment, [with] people really being out of place and trying to make a home in such a harsh environment that's not their own," he said. "And really, the story's about human emotion rather than necessarily a historical document."

Emily Watson
Those complex emotions are in some ways incongruous with the idea of the Western in film, with exception of the 1970s anti-Westerns, Hillcoat said.
"Your sympathies keep swinging between some of the characters, and that's very unusual because normally the American West is put into very black and white terms," he said.
And Hillcoat said he feels that dealing in black and white is a problem in today's political climate, one that "The Proposition" refutes.
"Life isn't like that," he said. "I know Bush is trying to tell everyone life is like that. Part of the mood of all that in a political context [is] empire building and the consequences of violence. I'm hoping it will ring a chord here [in the U.S.]."
And it has certainly made a big impression on Pearce; he said the film, from the cinematography to the music to his co-stars' performances make "The Proposition" a particularly special film for him.
"It's by far my favorite film that I've ever been in," he said. "Look, that's not to take anything away from 'Memento' or 'L.A. Confidential,' because I think they're both extraordinary pieces of work. But there's something about this that moves me in a way I haven't felt before.
"I have to be fair, because I haven't watched the other [films] for a couple years," he continued. "[But] there's something so raw. Maybe it means more to me because it's an Australian story."
Still, Pearce said, "It's a story about human emotions, so it doesn't really matter where it's set."
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![]() on May 06 2006 11:23 AM [b]Good stuff![/b] Powerful words for a powerful movie...especially considering the heat, the winds, the craziness it sounds like they endured during production. Anyone else see it yet? (Senh, what did you think?) (Reply to this) |
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on May 06 2006 01:04 PM Sounds like a tough shoot, the film sounds really good, I hope it does well and expands to my city. (Reply to this) |
![]() on May 06 2006 01:15 PM I've been hooked to this movie ever since I saw the first preview when it came out. I've had my fair share of good Guy Pearce movies and when I finally saw him back after a brief hiatus... I was jumping for joy and watched the trailer. I've been waiting for this since I saw it... But now I have to wait longer, because it's not playing in my theatre. I have had it saved on my queue for weeks now :D (Reply to this) |
![]() on May 06 2006 04:51 PM In reply to this comment (#835258) First, a disclaimer: I fell asleep during the first 10 minutes of every film I saw at Sundance, with the exception of one - Steel City, a family drama. And that was my favorite film of the festival. I just couldn't help it. The lack of sleep, walking around in the freezing cold, and then sitting in a warm comfortable seat instantly knocked me out every time. So anyway, for this screening, I downed a full cup of coffee before it started hoping to get pass the first 10 minutes awake. The result: I woke up 10 minutes later. I felt disoriented throughout the entire film because I missed the setup. I didn't know the guy Pierce's character was trying to capture was his brother. I missed out on that entire conflict. Throughout the film I was wondering why he was so conflicted - dude, just blow that guy's head up and save your little brother. Anyway, when the film was over, it reminded me a lot of "History of Violence," which I liked. Both are Westerns with gorey and shocking violence. I like how realistic the cinematography was, with bugs and insects flying around people's faces. I thought the score was unique too. But at the end, I didn't know what to think of it because I slept thru the setup. I'll have to watch it again to give it a fair review. (Reply to this) |
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on May 07 2006 11:37 AM I saw this film apon it release here in Australia and I have to say I was absolutely blown away by the power of the story, the outback setting, the actors and the music. The Proposition is epic film making in every sense of the word. Im obviously Australian and thus biased right? There may be some truth to that but I know quality and this is the stuff. It is now firmly entrenched into my top 10 films of all time and Im sure it is there to stay for all time. Quite simply stunning! (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2006 10:45 AM I missed its theatrical run, but it looks like it's available in the ol' Netflix queue now. I just bumped it to the top. (Reply to this) |
![]() on Oct 01 2006 06:55 PM I was pretty excited to see this film when it came out initially. It's probably been about three or four months since I saw it here in Hollywood. I must admit that I was disappointed. The production value and sets were fantastic. The action was top notch, and the acting was pretty solid, for the most part. The story and characters, however, were a bit incoherent and petty at times. I'm sure there is an esoteric explanation for every issue that I had with the story. However, filmmakers should not have the expectation that audiences will understand what they are trying to convey without listening to the director's commentary. A big problem for me was trying to understand what made the brother of Guy Pearce's character murder so many. It seemed like they glossed over that point, and he just was a thrill killer, robber, what have you. Another was that they set up David Wenham's character as such a prick, but he had no closure in the story. He just kind of disappears because the focus of the story shifts to the outback and stays there for the big shootout at Ray Winstone's house. I didn't care for Emily Watson's catatonic performance. She didn't have a lot to do with her role. Nevertheless, it did not take away from the fact that this film was somewhat enjoyable. But it didn't quite reach my level of expectations. (Reply to this) |
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