Critical Consensus: A Brave New "World," A "Step" Down, And No Screenings for "Pulse" and "Zoom"

Summary

This week at the movies, we've got Oliver Stone paying tribute to the heroes of 9/11 ("World Trade Center," starring Nicolas Cage); two youngsters trying to start a dance dance revolution ("Step Up," starring Jenna Dewan and Channing Tatum); a school for young superheroes ("Zoom," starring Tim Allen and Courteney Cox); and an evil website ("Pulse," starring Kristen Bell). What do the critics have to say? Back to Article

Comments

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

Why does the better reviewed 9/11 film have to be about an incident that nobody really cares about.

Aug 9 - 06:50 PM

knowingtoast85

brian Firenzi

Oooh, ouch man. You might get some responses on that one. I'm wincing just thinking about the ramifications of what you just wrote.

Aug 9 - 07:30 PM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

Honestly though, Of course its a tragedy, but it doesn't even begin to compare to what it was like at ground zero. Not even close.

Aug 9 - 08:26 PM

havoc_012

David Buckingham

Those are some fightin words, boy.

But seriously, watch what you say. You gotta be a pretty cold indiviual to say that. Think of the families that lost loved ones over the incident. Think about how many more would have been lost if they didn't bring the plane down when they did.

I'm pretty sure that most people actually care...

Aug 10 - 12:22 AM

jdobrole

Jason Dell

yeah that is probably the dumbest f**king comment anyone has ever made. The people on United 93 saved more lives than anybody that day. If it were not for them many people in washington would have died. I really just can't get over the fact of how dumb you are. I'm serious, there has to be an explanation. Maybe you're slightly retarded or something.

Aug 10 - 01:27 AM

plremcconn

Paul McConnachie

Seriously man not cool, who are you to judge what was the most important part of the day , the whole issue with 9/11 is that so many people were touched by it. There are countless stories surrounding the day and I beleive your comments are an insult to the people involved.
Appreciate the film for what it is , a reflection of the impact of 9/11 on 2 men and their families, played outduring one of the worst acts of terror on american soil.

Aug 10 - 02:05 AM

killthemall

mynameis mynameis

Dude no just no.

Aug 10 - 04:21 AM

lockdicer

First Last

yeah seriously that was stupider than when ebert said Speed 2 was entertaining

Aug 10 - 06:27 AM

Master King Sexington

Tyler Jones

hehe, stupider isn't a word. And your saying that was stupid. Ahh, levity inside such a grim forum

Aug 10 - 05:14 PM

Prog5000

David Prior

In the UK we still get alot of references made to the twin towers, it was a very big deal and people all over the world lost friends or family when those planes flew into the towers.

Aug 10 - 07:52 AM

knowingtoast85

brian Firenzi

Oooh, ouch man. You might get some responses on that one. I'm wincing just thinking about the ramifications of what you just wrote.

Aug 9 - 07:30 PM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

Honestly though, Of course its a tragedy, but it doesn't even begin to compare to what it was like at ground zero. Not even close.

Aug 9 - 08:26 PM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

Honestly though, Of course its a tragedy, but it doesn't even begin to compare to what it was like at ground zero. Not even close.

Aug 9 - 08:26 PM

havoc_012

David Buckingham

Those are some fightin words, boy.

But seriously, watch what you say. You gotta be a pretty cold indiviual to say that. Think of the families that lost loved ones over the incident. Think about how many more would have been lost if they didn't bring the plane down when they did.

I'm pretty sure that most people actually care...

Aug 10 - 12:22 AM

jdobrole

Jason Dell

yeah that is probably the dumbest f**king comment anyone has ever made. The people on United 93 saved more lives than anybody that day. If it were not for them many people in washington would have died. I really just can't get over the fact of how dumb you are. I'm serious, there has to be an explanation. Maybe you're slightly retarded or something.

Aug 10 - 01:27 AM

plremcconn

Paul McConnachie

Seriously man not cool, who are you to judge what was the most important part of the day , the whole issue with 9/11 is that so many people were touched by it. There are countless stories surrounding the day and I beleive your comments are an insult to the people involved.
Appreciate the film for what it is , a reflection of the impact of 9/11 on 2 men and their families, played outduring one of the worst acts of terror on american soil.

Aug 10 - 02:05 AM

killthemall

mynameis mynameis

Dude no just no.

Aug 10 - 04:21 AM

lockdicer

First Last

yeah seriously that was stupider than when ebert said Speed 2 was entertaining

Aug 10 - 06:27 AM

Master King Sexington

Tyler Jones

hehe, stupider isn't a word. And your saying that was stupid. Ahh, levity inside such a grim forum

Aug 10 - 05:14 PM

synergyred

Nancy Elizabeth

Natureboy... you better take that back of people are gonna MURDER you here.

I, personally, am not ready to see this movie. It's too soon for me. But I'm glad that Oliver Stone seems to be treating such a sensitive subject with respect.

Aug 10 - 06:53 AM

dracus

Cap Nord

[b]A KINDER , GENTLER OLIVER STONE[/b]

I saw 'World Trade Center' yesterday and thought that Stone did a pretty good job considering the eggshells of controversy he had to walk on to film it and he avoided the temptation of sensationalising the movie to do it.

Since I'm not an American, my only fear going into it was that it was going to be another 'Flag waving God Bless America good old boy gung ho tearjerker of a movie' and was pleased to see that it wasn't about any of that. He simply made a great little movie about the real heroes of the day; the families and the people who selfishly stepped up to the plate and sacrificed their lives trying to save those trapped inside. While the collapse of the buildings were unnerving to watch, it will be the sounds of the movie that I'll remember the most, such as the roar of the actual collapse and of the crashing sounds of those who jumped landing on the buildings overhangs. There were a number of scenes throughout the movie that Stone displayed his brilliance as a director, but it was his genuine admiration and warmth for all those affected by the tragedy that gives this movie its heart.

Is it too early for a 9/11 movie? It would be if it's about those trapped on the higher floors knowing they were going to die, but it isn't too early to make a solid movie about hope and faith and that's exactly what World Trade Center is. Maybe it does plays more like a Ron Howard movie than an Oliver Stone movie, but there's no denying one thing, Oliver Stone is back; albeit kinder and gentler.

Aug 10 - 07:38 AM

Prog5000

David Prior

In the UK we still get alot of references made to the twin towers, it was a very big deal and people all over the world lost friends or family when those planes flew into the towers.

Aug 10 - 07:52 AM

Unbreakable Samurai

Unbreakable Samurai

I thought that it was a very good movie, well directed and acted. The 2nd best film of the year so far.

Aug 10 - 10:20 AM

Zen Bullet

J D

The film wasn't very good. Which is ironic, because you'd think the "ground zero" story would have had more potential than "United 93".

"World Trade Center" was an exercise in "waiting", really. There wasn't a dramtic storyline. It was like watching a bunch of characters "hanging out" and, well, waiting. There was minimal character-growth, much less inspired development.

Many of the technical qualities(cinematography, sound) were good. But considering the location and the event, the effects weren't too impressive, and neither was the spectacle. So naturally, if the "spectacle" of ground zero wasn't going to be front and center, you'd expect the story itelf to be powerful(like "United 93"), but that wasn't the case here.

Blame the script. Everybody else did good work(the actors, the crew, the music and sound teams) . . . but there wasn't a dramatic story to draw our attention . . . which make the movie something of a bellyflop.

I wish I could write off my dissappointment because of the subject matter(like so many critics seem to have done), but to be honest, it's not a very good film. It isn't as emotionally forced as the trailer hinted, but it doesn't mine the potential that it could have.

"United 93", despite being quite a small film, was perfect for what it was trying to be. It deserves Best Picture and Best Director nominations for sure. "World Trade Center", however, is like a more bloated, aimless, cousin to it.

Aug 10 - 10:26 AM

woot

craig w

Most of the evidence points to 93 being shot down, so the people on board may have accomplished nothing.

Before you flame me, even the mainstream media has finally started reporting some of the government's deception about what really happened that day, so do some research.

Aug 10 - 10:49 AM

dracus

Cap Nord

Oh for Christ's sake, give this conspiracy shit a break. It was a terrorist attack from Bin Laden and friends, nothing more. Besides, if it was an inside job, Oliver Stone and Michael Moore would have been all over it like stink on a Bush, er, I mean monkey.

Aug 10 - 11:36 AM

aknddon3

andrew kruzel

[b]You are an idiot[/b]
Keep believing what little 14 year old boys tell you online while the rest of us with our own brains can see how retarded you are.

Aug 10 - 11:50 AM

dracus

Cap Nord

Oh for Christ's sake, give this conspiracy shit a break. It was a terrorist attack from Bin Laden and friends, nothing more. Besides, if it was an inside job, Oliver Stone and Michael Moore would have been all over it like stink on a Bush, er, I mean monkey.

Aug 10 - 11:36 AM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

[b]My point is....[/b]
On 9/11, everyone was glued to their televisions in shock while watching the twin towers up in smoke. It was the scariest event in american history. Firefighters and police officers did everything they could without considering their own safety. In all the madness that day in New York City, there was also beauty, because all these men and women risked their lives to save perfect strangers when they could've just as easily ran away. Now this is a story that deserves a 5 star treatment, and the isolated incident that was Flight 93, pales in comparison. Im sorry, but it really does.

Aug 10 - 11:39 AM

aknddon3

andrew kruzel

[b]You are an idiot[/b]
Keep believing what little 14 year old boys tell you online while the rest of us with our own brains can see how retarded you are.

Aug 10 - 11:50 AM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

Saying that nobody cares about United 93 was harsh, but I was pi$$ed off. You all know that ground zero was a far worse tragedy than Flight 93. The people on Flight 93 knew they were going to die, anyone with an ounce of courage would do the same thing. I am greatful for what they did, but it just doesn't even come close to ground zero.

Do you realize that ground zero had over 3000 deaths while Flight 93 maybe had around 20. People were jumping out of the towers and we saw those horrible images on television. The sound of a firetruck will forever haunt me after 9/11. The brave men and women at ground zero had a choice. They could've just as easily went home that day. But they choose to risk their lives on the most horrifying day in american history. Now that is admirable. I'm sure you all can see why I think that the story at ground zero is far more deserving of a 5 star treatment.

Aug 10 - 01:08 PM

illinoise

Ethan Hartsell

united 93 was a tribute to the sacrifice that a few people made to prevent the deaths of hundreds, maybe thousands, of others. it was not trying to say that the plane crash was "more of a tragedy" than the attack on the world trade centers. and it is not an isolated event. it is completely connected to the attacks on the WTC and Pentagon. it was perpetrated by the same terrorist group on the same day as those attacks. if your point is that WTC should have been a better movie because more people died than on flight United 93, then i think you are missing the point of both movies. it's really a trivial complaint. basically, you're saying "this movie should have been better," which can be said about any movie.

Aug 10 - 02:02 PM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

I am saying that World Trade Center should be the better movie because ground zero is and always will be the most important part of 9/11. Like I said before, the men and women at ground zero were much braver because they had a choice. The people on Flight 93 knew they were going to die.

Aug 10 - 02:10 PM

illinoise

Ethan Hartsell

you are saying ground zero is the most important part of 9/11 because that's where the most people died. what if United 93 had reahced the White House? the decision of the people on the plane to prevent that from happening is extremely important. you are belittling their sacrifice, saying "it's what any good person would have done." well, men and women who went into the World Trade Centers to save lives were all doing their jobs. they did what any good firefighter, or policeman, or paramedic would have done. quanitifying one sacrifice as better than the other is incredibly disrespectful.

if you are saying that WTC should have been a better movie because the men and women who died deserve a better tribute, then i can understand that. just don't dishonor the other people who made sacrifices on that day by saying their heroics "pale in comparison" to the events at ground zero. and be happy that at least one, maybe two, good movies were made in their honor.

Aug 10 - 02:43 PM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

"if you are saying that WTC should have been a better movie because the men and women who died deserve a better tribute, then i can understand that"

Thats exactly what I'm saying.

Aug 10 - 05:27 PM

Matt

Matt .

[b]Amen[/b]
I agree with Illinoise for the most part. You can't quantify courage and sacrifice. Anyone who made a sacrifice that day or acted selflessly is a hero.Both incidents were terrible and I believe we should show respect to both. In the meantime is anyone interested in the film? Or should we continue to argue who is right and wrong about sacrifice and heroism?

I think it looks pretty moving personally and plan to see it.

Aug 10 - 05:28 PM

LordOfQuarters

Colin scully

You fucking asshole. You're saying that the people on United 93 were only brave because they knew they were going to die? Sure, many people see the WTC attacks as darker and more horrific, and they most definitely are. But how can you say that no one really cares about United 93 when, no matter what their fate was, they chose not just to sit there and be afriad but to fight. People like you make me sick.

Aug 10 - 05:01 PM

killthemall

mynameis mynameis

Yes I definitely see what your saying but you just can't say that nobody cares about Flight 93 that's just going too far in making your point.

Aug 10 - 05:34 PM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

"Yes I definitely see what your saying but you just can't say that nobody cares about Flight 93 that's just going too far in making your point."

I said that cause I was pi$$ed off about the negative feedback on WTC. I was really hoping that this would be the movie to beat this year.

Aug 10 - 05:40 PM

MDB_88

daniel johnson

THe reviews are not about the event u DUmb Shyt...... its about the quality of the movie...... Both events were terrible..... United 93 was the better movie. simple as that.... wats with all the "WTC was worse so it should get better reviews".... thats plain stupid..... United 93 involved you much more then WTC.... if greengrass directed WTC im sure it would get better reviews....

Aug 11 - 01:40 AM

illinoise

Ethan Hartsell

united 93 was a tribute to the sacrifice that a few people made to prevent the deaths of hundreds, maybe thousands, of others. it was not trying to say that the plane crash was "more of a tragedy" than the attack on the world trade centers. and it is not an isolated event. it is completely connected to the attacks on the WTC and Pentagon. it was perpetrated by the same terrorist group on the same day as those attacks. if your point is that WTC should have been a better movie because more people died than on flight United 93, then i think you are missing the point of both movies. it's really a trivial complaint. basically, you're saying "this movie should have been better," which can be said about any movie.

Aug 10 - 02:02 PM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

I am saying that World Trade Center should be the better movie because ground zero is and always will be the most important part of 9/11. Like I said before, the men and women at ground zero were much braver because they had a choice. The people on Flight 93 knew they were going to die.

Aug 10 - 02:10 PM

illinoise

Ethan Hartsell

you are saying ground zero is the most important part of 9/11 because that's where the most people died. what if United 93 had reahced the White House? the decision of the people on the plane to prevent that from happening is extremely important. you are belittling their sacrifice, saying "it's what any good person would have done." well, men and women who went into the World Trade Centers to save lives were all doing their jobs. they did what any good firefighter, or policeman, or paramedic would have done. quanitifying one sacrifice as better than the other is incredibly disrespectful.

if you are saying that WTC should have been a better movie because the men and women who died deserve a better tribute, then i can understand that. just don't dishonor the other people who made sacrifices on that day by saying their heroics "pale in comparison" to the events at ground zero. and be happy that at least one, maybe two, good movies were made in their honor.

Aug 10 - 02:43 PM

the_NatureBoy_WOOOOO

jonny danger

"if you are saying that WTC should have been a better movie because the men and women who died deserve a better tribute, then i can understand that"

Thats exactly what I'm saying.

Aug 10 - 05:27 PM

Matt

Matt .

[b]Amen[/b]
I agree with Illinoise for the most part. You can't quantify courage and sacrifice. Anyone who made a sacrifice that day or acted selflessly is a hero.Both incidents were terrible and I believe we should show respect to both. In the meantime is anyone interested in the film? Or should we continue to argue who is right and wrong about sacrifice and heroism?

I think it looks pretty moving personally and plan to see it.

Aug 10 - 05:28 PM

LordOfQuarters

Colin scully

You fucking asshole. You're saying that the people on United 93 were only brave because they knew they were going to die? Sure, many people see the WTC attacks as darker and more horrific, and they most definitely are. But how can you say that no one really cares about United 93 when, no matter what their fate was, they chose not just to sit there and be afriad but to fight. People like you make me sick.

Aug 10 - 05:01 PM

godinanalcove

Marilyn Martin

[b]hey you bastards[/b]
hey we are the west we care, if it happens somewhere else we dont care. why is 9/11 so important. in the past 5 years we (USA, brit) did and doing more damage than 9/11. yes i am as cold as natureboy, so murder me. just look at the middle east and lebanon, it is a mess. that is worst than 9/11. maybe if we (usa, brit) get nuke, cities destroy, thounsands of american and brits die. oh wait, never mind, we didnt do anything with new orleans.

Aug 10 - 02:04 PM

JBourne

**** off

Your post makes no sense. It's just a bunch of random words. "maybe if we (usa, brit) get nuke, cities destroy, thounsands of american and brits die. oh wait, never mind, we didnt do anything with new orleans." Just look at that. Read it out loud, if you can. Does it make an ounce of sense. I can tell you're trying to get people riled up (yes i am as cold as natureboy, so murder me.), but no one is really going to give a shit if they can't understand you. Just trying to help you out. Although I kind of doubt you can read this. Let me translate for you: hey we are readers, if you cant spell we dont read. we not read or reading youre writing. maybe if you (dumass, iliterit) learn english, posts read, we write. oh wait, we dont care.

Aug 13 - 11:09 PM

Master King Sexington

Tyler Jones

I suspect that he is a version of Brad Pitt who is trapped in his role from Snatch, Mickey. Oh wait, at least Mickey was somewhat intelligible.

Aug 13 - 11:45 PM

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