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Roth Explores the Feminine Mystique in "Hostel 2"
by Fred Topel | May 09, 2007
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"Hostel" took the male fantasy of orgies with easy European women and turned it into a nightmare as they were drugged and tortured to death by wealthy businessmen. "Hostel II" follows women who get lured to the torture palace, so they'll need different tricks.

"There is a feminine side," said director Eli Roth. "I think in the first one, you're really kind of with the guys and there were a lot of things that lured them to this place were sort of guy things. It was the sex tourism. So I wanted to explore what would attract women to go this place and how would girls get there as well? So we're going to be following their story and we're going to follow the story of the clients that have paid to kill them."





Eli Roth is vocal about the importance of nudity in horror films, but with female heroines, "Hostel II" is not likely to be quite as titillating as the original. "Actually, that was really much more what the first one was about. There's some of that in this movie but this one I really wanted to make it scarier and I think I kind of toned down in guess more of the Porky's elements of the first one because it didn't really apply to the second one. Of course some of that's there because it wouldn't be Hostel II without it."

Perhaps it will be sexual for the intellectuals out there. "I think there's inherent sexuality. Any time there's a man committing violence against a woman in a film, there's definitely sexual undertones inherent."

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TortillaSoup
TortillaSoup writes:
on May 09 2007 09:28 AM

nudity or bust!


(LOL GET IT?! GET IT?!)


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Crenshaw
Crenshaw writes:
on May 09 2007 10:14 AM

Eww. Eli Roth's comments are creepier than Hostel could ever hope to be. I need a shower.

Anyway, just lure them with a Prada clearance sale. That seems to be about as intellectual as this guy can handle.


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arendr
arendr writes:
on May 09 2007 10:30 AM

Hostel is the only movie where the nudity was annoying. that first hour was so stupid.

am i going to get flamed for this? maybe, but Hostel was terrible.


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mattpietro527
mattpietro527 writes:
on May 09 2007 10:54 AM

i agree with you arendr. ANYBODY can make Roth's films. The only reason anybody believes this guy is influential is because he relies solely on the gross-out factor in his films. You won't go to Hostel II for the story, you'll go to Hostel II to see a person get realistically tortured so you can cover your eyes and scream "OMG that is disgusting!" and talk about how gross and awesome it was for days to come. Sick, sick people. Hostel isn't a horror film, it's a smut film. Roth belongs on HBO (at best), keep this freak away from theaters.

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sistrunk
sistrunk writes:
on May 09 2007 11:01 AM

Agreed Matt. The first movie was very disturbing to me, but I must say I didn't mind the nudity.
Images from the movie and just the concept itself has made me take a step back from watching movies; I mean, it was just too much.

And yes, Crenshaw, his comments are creepy.


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Herberbaly
Herberbaly writes:
on May 09 2007 11:45 AM

While Hostel was anything but classic horror fare, I think Eli Roth has the potential to develop into a genius within the genre. Hostel took visual horror to a new level; whatever side of the coin you're on with that (good or bad), he definitely changed what it takes to gross out a crowd these days.

My overall feelings on the flick are mixed to say the least, but the conclusion was stunning in my estimation. I loved that Roth explored the nastiness of the human condition after living through such an experience. I thought that it really did a good job exploring "violence begets violence." The ability of any person to transform into a monster is always lurking beneath the surface, and I liked how we are driven to cheer for a man murdering another man in cold blood in a trainstation bathroom. While many probably feel I am reading too much into the flick, well that's why they exist. You take whatever you want from a movie, and whether or not others agree with me, I think Roth is smart enough to have crafted something like that.

I did think there were too many boobies in the first one, too. Hopefully Hostel II explores the darker, revenge-driven aspects of a person. But one thing is for sure: Roth aboslutely, positively, MUST make "THANKSGIVING"


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marktron
marktron writes:
on May 09 2007 11:55 AM

I found Hostel totally ineffective at creating likable characters worth rooting for. At one point in the movie I was actually cheering for the "bad guys" to kill everyone so the movie would wrap up. Instead I was treated to a last act that was the definition of cliche.

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blank blank
blank blank writes:
on May 09 2007 11:58 AM

i have to admit i havent seen hostel because at first i dismissed it as just more torture crap along the lines of the hills have eyes and dead silence and all that crap thats come out since... but after seeing the trailer for thanksgiving, im interested in renting it... hostel doesnt seem to be the type of movie where intellectualism is found, but thats what has always separated the good horror movies from the bad ones, like 28 days later has a deeper meaning to it than just zombie action, like resident evil...

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Hurmoth
Hurmoth writes:
on May 09 2007 12:08 PM

In reply to this comment (#864604)
[b]Agreed.[/b]
I completely agree with you. Hostel's plot was fantastic, but sexuality and nudity was pointless and annoying as you stated. Nudity shouldn't distract the audience or be forced on them (so to speak) in a horror film. Nudity should be part of the story if you're going to have it in there, but if the audience feels uncomfortable with it, then it isn't suppose to be there. Eli should take a lesson from Saw III. They had nudity, but I didn't feel uncomfortable seeing it because it was part of the trap itself, it wasn't just to have it in there like what I felt it was in Hostel.

I'm reserving judgment on Hostel: Part II for now because I'm really hoping that it is better (it couldn't be any worse than the first one). I'm hoping it is better than Saw III (one of the best horror films IMO in years (outside of the first Saw of course)), but I have a feeling it won't be.


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Hurmoth
Hurmoth writes:
on May 09 2007 12:09 PM

In reply to this comment (#864609)
[b]Huh?[/b]
Dead Silence isn't a torture film. What are you talking about? Dead Silence is a ghost story, nothing to do about torture at all.


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narcissusbleh
narcissusbleh writes:
on May 09 2007 03:26 PM

The nudity was pointless. Why do most fratboy-type students travel, anyway? It's not to get laid is it?

Honestly? What did you expect from the Hostel trailer? Silence of the Lamb? Uhh, no, you get what you see. Mad torture scenes.


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sauronthegr8
sauronthegr8 writes:
on May 09 2007 08:33 PM

[b]I might be the only one, but...[/b]
I actually like Hostel. It may be a torture film, but it's a hell of a lot more intelligent than the Saw movies to me. The sex and nudity are there to negate what happens later on in the film. These guys are having a great time and then it turns into something horrifying.


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skasforfags
skasforfags writes:
on May 09 2007 09:35 PM

What a weirdo.

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Herberbaly
Herberbaly writes:
on May 09 2007 10:13 PM

In reply to this comment (#864609)
Hostel is nothing like the Thanksgiving trailer, dude. I wish it were, but Thanksgiving was mere exploitation fare, while Hostel was more straight up disgusting. If you have a strong stomach, I would say you should check it out; but there is a lot of pointless nudity and none of the hysterical humor of Thanksgiving. Just be prepared to dislike it. And for the guy who thought "Saw" was the best horror movie of the last few years, I have seven words for you: "The Devil's Rejects," and "28 Days Later." I can honestly say "Saw" was one of the worst movies I've ever watched. But that's just the opinion of a guy who congregates movie forum...

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dracula68
dracula68 writes:
on May 10 2007 02:00 AM

Why not give Roth some benefit of the doubt? SOme of the very best horror films and horror literature are all about what can be used to lure women and convince women to do something. "Carrie" is strongly feminine (and directed by xy-club member Brian DePalma). Okay, so it wasn't torture but she was ruthlessly bullied. But my main point is just hold off ripping this or praising it to high heaven until the Tomatometer rolls in.

OTher examples in case you want them:
Alien
Terminator

Company Of Wolves (based on Little Red Riding Hood).

these are horror/sci fi (which I know Hostel 2 isn't, it's horror) featuring women in key decision-making roles who drive the story. They make bad decisions and good ones just like real life. I didn't put Halloween on the list because this is a thread discussing, in part, key female roles in horror films. I don't need to put it on the list.


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liono86
liono86 writes:
on May 10 2007 08:49 AM

If anyone wants to know why some of us such as myself don't go by critics reviews, well, then, Hostel is a perfect example.

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sorrowfool
sorrowfool writes:
on May 10 2007 02:39 PM

In reply to this comment (#864613)
[b]Exactly...[/b]
The whole first part of Hostel was there to show the hedonistic side of what the boys were there for.They were partying, drinking, having sex, all around enjoying themselves. Then it turned into something horrible.


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arcadefire325
arcadefire325 writes:
on May 13 2007 11:42 AM

thanksgiving was awesome. you won't know what the movie is like until you see hostel 2. those were really creepy comments. at least thanksgiving was funny when the gore scenes came.hostel took itself way too seriously. eli is better off doing horror/comedy films. like evil dead, shaun of the dead and many others i can't name off of the top of my head. he can still do the gore but make it funny.

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dantedom
dantedom writes:
on May 17 2007 08:29 PM

[b]Hostel was a masterpiece[/b]
Hostel is a masterpiece, not because it is the best piece of horror moviedom , being exhibited from Hollywood after a long time, but because it explores human nature too.


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melizer writes:
on Nov 04 2007 11:37 PM



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