ROTTEN TOMATOES: Is the "Ghost Rider" Returning? Comments

Is the "Ghost Rider" Returning?

by Scott Weinberg | June 08, 2007

Summary

While working the press for the "Ghost Rider" DVD, director Mark Steven Johnson got to talking about sequel possibilities, and guess what? Back to Article

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Merlin235 writes:
on Jun 08 2007 07:33 AM

Eh, didin't see the original although I do plan on it sometime. Is it even out of DVD yet?

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The Great One writes:
on Jun 08 2007 07:42 AM

Save yourself and dont see it..honestly there is no action...it is easily the worst comic book movie of all-time..all hail Batman & Robin!

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glhxckid writes:
on Jun 08 2007 07:44 AM

The first one was so mediocre... I don't see how they could make another one.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Jun 08 2007 08:17 AM

In reply to this comment (#868502)
Unfortunately mediocrity means nothing. They made money off of it. Frankly I thought a few flashy action sequences were all this movie had. There certainly wasn't an overabundance of plot, the dialog was pretty lame and the main bad guy's were extremely weak.

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Gimy writes:
on Jun 08 2007 08:42 AM

dude, PLEEEEASE make another one!! this was one of my favorite crapfests EVER. it wasn't as bad as catwoman but...pretty close. i actually cried at that ending...it was so incredibley funny i couldn't hold back. the dialogue was SO bad and SO off...it was like listening to Britney Spears trying to do shakespeare. "ya'll...to be done...or ain't to be done...that be duh askin'." this is one bad sequel i'm all for.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 08 2007 09:09 AM

In reply to this comment (#868503)
I personally thougt the dialouge was fine except for Ghost Rider's horribly robotic lines ("SORRY..... ALL... OUT.... OF.... MERCY"). I personally liked the movie. I'll probably end up seeing it no matter what, but whether it's out of curiousity or an actual yearning is all up to whoever's directing it and how the trailer's look.

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Racer Z writes:
on Jun 08 2007 09:28 AM

I won't be seeing Ghost Rider again. I won't be buying the DVD. And I CERTAINLY won't be burning anymore money to see the sequel. This was easily the biggest waste of 2 hours of the year so far and I can't imagine it could get much worse the rest of the year on out.

I was dragged to this movie because I was out-voted in my group of friends on which movie to see that weekend. My only satisfaction coming out of this disaster was that I was right in knowing how bad it was going to be.

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blank blank writes:
on Jun 08 2007 09:40 AM

in the hands of a more capable director (or should i say just plain capable, cause this guy sucks) ghost rider could have been an awesome horror superhero movie. i always imagined a great ghost rider movie being something of a cross between from dusk till dawn, grindhouse, and black snake moan (in terms of cinematic feel), it needed to be rough and edgy, but instead, we got a superpolished tongue in cheek craptacular. plus, the cgi wasnt even that good. if the sequel makes more than 100 mil, people are dumber than i thought (and i think people as a mass thing are already dumb enough)

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 08 2007 09:52 AM

In reply to this comment (#868503)
Good call. I'll pass on this and wait for the Spawn reboot.

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Elixor writes:
on Jun 08 2007 09:58 AM

I missed the first one. Couldn't get myself to see it. It just reeked of mediocrety (excuse my spelling). I'll catch it on DVD. Probably the second one too.

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buddablz writes:
on Jun 08 2007 10:32 AM

"I wish we had a lot more action than we do."
How about action period, All Ghost Rider fights were when he wrapped his chain around those guys and that gulit stare thing. That movie wasted my time, I'm glad I saw it for free.
I can't say this made me care about the character, it was too cheesy and underwhelming for me to want to see a sequel. The special effects weren't good in this film.

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Hallarian writes:
on Jun 08 2007 12:09 PM

This movie was worse than Daredevil. It was worse than Batman and Robin. I was worse than ever other Direct-to-DVD movie I have ever seen!

It should have been directed by someone whose balls weren't surgically attached to Nick Cage's chin.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 08 2007 12:44 PM

In reply to this comment (#868500)
No you are talking about Superman Returns

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 08 2007 12:46 PM

Wow, so many people with no idea what they are talking about.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 08 2007 01:17 PM

In reply to this comment (#868513)
Well now what are YOU... talking about, aknddon3? Not Superman Returns again? Get over it, coach. Yes, it blew. But for crying out loud, you're not gonna get any cred anywhere by trying to force feed us this peculiar idea that it was the worst comic book movie ever. You're not, man. Just not.

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alsanali writes:
on Jun 08 2007 02:00 PM

Is no one else concerned about the mention of a Preacher adaptation?

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cgcbooks writes:
on Jun 08 2007 02:12 PM

In reply to this comment (#868514)
You tell him!

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cgcbooks writes:
on Jun 08 2007 02:13 PM

I would rather see a Werewolf by Night film.

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The Paki Don writes:
on Jun 08 2007 02:31 PM

Don't you think that the general audience would think that "Scarecrow" in a sequel would be odd, when he's also in the DC Universe of Batman and especially was so well-performed by Cillian Murphy? The general audience is surprisingly... creative... in their thinking...

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See-Jay writes:
on Jun 08 2007 02:35 PM

From what I've heard Ghost Rider is one of those movies where the only people that like them are the same people who like EVERY movie they see.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 08 2007 02:48 PM

In reply to this comment (#868519)
lol..

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Bear45 writes:
on Jun 08 2007 03:53 PM

In reply to this comment (#868505)
What about when he yelled: "Yee-Haww!!!" As he threw his chain to "lasso" the helicopter. LOL SO lame!!!

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 08 2007 05:24 PM

In reply to this comment (#868521)
Yeah, that was pretty stupid.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 08 2007 05:25 PM

In reply to this comment (#868514)
THANK YOU.... thought it's doubtful he'll listen. If he can just face the fact that people are allowed to disagree with him, he'll be better off.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 08 2007 05:40 PM

Yet they are doing exactly what you complain that i do. "Oh the only people who like it are the ones that like everything." One retard said that.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 08 2007 05:59 PM

In reply to this comment (#868524)
You're right. People do that, but (now I'm saying this with no offense intended), you seem to do it pretty intensley.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, your opinion is official dismissed as being not important. Anyone who would call Animal House, Billy Madison, and the best Mel Brooks movie as not being funny has no say on what is funny. Sorry but you are completely wrong. You might be the only person in the world that does not find those movies funny. And i am older than you so do not call me 10.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA, you think that Knocked Up was good? Man are you retarded, only a 10 year old would like a retarded movie like that and then claim that Space Balls, or Animal House, or Billy Madison is worse. You can never talk again, you are officially the butt of every joke because your taste in movies it the worst EVER.

WRONG, SORRY BUT YOUR OPINION DOES NOT MEAN SHIT AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. It cost abou$350 million to make and it had probably the worst word of mouth for any comic book movie ever. IT SUCKED, GET OVER IT, YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY THAT LIKED IT. The DVD was the number one most returned DVD or Regifted DVD that tells you something.

It is funny when the moron defending Supercrap Blows, sorry Superman Returns calls someone else dumbass. So with your so called intelligence explain how giving Superman a child stayed true to the comics? Or by making him a deadbeat dad? Or how with a peice of Kryptonite he was able to lift an entire island made of it with parts of it coming close to stabbing him again? Or explain what type of comic book movie has the main character never throw a punch? Or what kind of mom takes her young son onto Lex Luther's boat alone? Or how come they choose a nerd that looks like my nephew can beat up to play the strongest character ever?

COME ON MORON

That doesn't sound nearly as, oh I'll say it, cruel as "From what I've seen, the only people that liked this movie are the type of people that like EVERY movie. I'm just trying to help you out.

BUT you do bring up a solid point.

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killermonkey8822 writes:
on Jun 08 2007 06:48 PM

ghost rider sucked......... i didn't really expect to see a good movie when i watched it.......... but it still could have been way better......... there was not nearly enough action and the story sucked bad.......... a sequel is no point but it will probably come out anyway...................... people will do anything for more money these days. overall ghost rider just wasn't a very fun movie at all. And i laughed when he said "a lot more action if the sequel shows up, because you can do that once your origin story is filed away in Part 1." It just sounded funny like he is an expert at super hero movies and he knows everything about them, and he just made a good one.

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Brad 3000 writes:
on Jun 08 2007 08:46 PM

In reply to this comment (#868525)
Um Anknd...whatever his name is is certainly a jackass, but so are you. You think Billy madison is a better movie than Knocked Up and you're calling someone else retarded? I mean, I like Billy Madison alright but come on. and Spaceballs? Seriously? That's your penultimate Mel Brooks movie? I liked it when I was 12 but it's pretty retarded.

As for a Ghost Rider sequel, I will be watching and waiting - not because I liked the first one mind you, but because Ghost Rider has always been one of my favorite comic book characters and I'm still hoping it gets done right.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 08 2007 09:14 PM

In reply to this comment (#868527)
Heads up, Brad. But I think those quotes are taken from some of aknddon's earlier posts. I think Bats is just spoofing.

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Callpacas writes:
on Jun 09 2007 04:38 AM

I enjoyed Ghost Rider and i ain't ashamed of it. Skipped it at the movies with all the bad word of mouth around it, but i realized that people just got their expectations wrong in the first place. Same thing goes for Fantastic Four. Popcorn,tongue-in-cheek, silly, intentionally filled with corny one-liners, plenty of cool action scenes, half baked romance ( just like most romantic comedies)....but still entertaining. Its like Mystery Men and Darkman. It certainly doesn't take itself seriously,a that;s a good thing.A flaming skull----helo.... I don;t know you guys, but i do not want all comics to take the Batman route. Sometimes there's need for FUN.

Just make the second one 150mins so you can not only flesh out the characters but also fill it with elaborate action sequences. Just hope there's enough money to please both sides.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 09 2007 05:03 AM

In reply to this comment (#868527)
I wasn't trying to be a jackass. I was just trying to help out akndonn3.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 09 2007 08:25 AM

In reply to this comment (#868529)
True. But there's nothing funny about being cursed. And that's what pissed me off about Ghost Rider. Ditto that for the original Spawn movie that fumbled on all that camp shit. If they wanna do fun, campy cheese they should pick a brand that is readily conducive to that kind of treatment. Just my two cent. Imagine a Punisher or Violent Messiahs (from Image Comics for the uninitiated) movie that's got silly jokes all over the place. It's a bad precedent to set. And that's what ruined Daredevil, by the way.

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arcadefire325 writes:
on Jun 09 2007 09:05 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I saw it free on YouTube and it was terrible. no sequel!!!!!

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 09 2007 09:23 AM

In reply to this comment (#868528)
Right. They're the exact quotes.

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Brad 3000 writes:
on Jun 09 2007 09:46 AM

In reply to this comment (#868533)
Ahhh. My Apologies. I know that Ankndon3 (did I get that right yet) is an obnoxious idiot but it seemed like you were just being one too. Maybe quote marks would've helped me understand.

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I Am Remote writes:
on Jun 09 2007 10:18 AM

"Scarecrow"? Certainly not the Batman villain.
I know there's a very minor (very minor) Spider-Man villain of the same name... but that shouldn't be.

Ghost Rider has no good villains. Leave it at one.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 09 2007 10:30 AM

In reply to this comment (#868534)
Yeah, big time. I'm reading it and I'm like "wait a minute, this is NOT Bats. Can't be." It was when I recognized some of the comments that I was certain. And relieved. Quotation marks, Bats. They're your friend.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 09 2007 11:00 AM

In reply to this comment (#868527)
Oh god you are a retard. Yet again another 10 year old tries to tell us that knocked up is good. Nope that movie is retarded. And us smart people like Spaceballs and Billy Madison, but you are just a little kid.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 09 2007 11:02 AM

In reply to this comment (#868530)
Im not mad but would you guys please get my name right. It is two Ds and one N at the end.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 09 2007 11:03 AM

In reply to this comment (#868534)
I love how the retard that liked knocked up calls me the smart person an idiot. Go away nerd.

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synergyred writes:
on Jun 09 2007 11:13 AM

Ugh. Let's so not make another one of these. I don't know a single person who enjoyed this. Can we go back to when we just got one or two superhero movies a year and they were WORTH it?

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Kollikodon writes:
on Jun 09 2007 11:17 AM

I saw the first one thrashed... and it was still bad... and thats saying something...

I wish people would waste their time creating um... potentially better superhero movies...(ID GO SEE A PLASTIC MAN MOVIE, OR A RUNAWAYS MOVIE)

Ghost Rider Had its chance... I say rather then make a sequel, Id say hold on to it for a good 6-7 years and maybe remake it.. (Like what they are doing with HULK)...

hopefully they have learned from their mistakes...(hopefully)

But, whatever people will pay 8$ to go see..they will make...

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Mr. & Mrs. B writes:
on Jun 09 2007 11:33 AM

[b]UGH!!!![/b]
I've been following these posts on comic book movies a lot lately and can't figure out what aknddon3's problem is (I got that right, Two D's and One N, as if anyone cared). If someone liked a movie and another didnt, there is no reason to call them a moron, idiot, jackass, etc. Not everyone is going to like a movie, no matter how good it is (likewise there will always be someone that likes a bad movie, or what you think is bad). STOP being so aroggant. Your opinion is not the only one that matters, nor should it be forced on everyone else. Sharing your opinion is cool, forcing it on everyone and ridiculing everyone else is not kewl, so you grow up and stop acting like your 10, please!!!!!!!!!!

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criddic writes:
on Jun 09 2007 11:44 AM

I kind of liked "Ghost Rider." It was much more entertaining than I expected it to be. It was a pure B-movie with a big budget. The effects were fine, not great but fine for the material. The performances were suitable. A movie doesn't have to be the next classic all the time. It was fun. A sequel should keep the same tone, not take itself too seriously. It's based on a graphic comic book, not Shakespeare. Got a kick out of seeing Peter Fonda and Sam Elliot in their roles. DVD release scheduled for June 12.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 09 2007 12:09 PM

In reply to this comment (#868536)
I'll use 'em next time. Thanks :)

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 09 2007 12:10 PM

In reply to this comment (#868534)
No harm, no harm. I'll keep that in mind next time.

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ZeIceAge writes:
on Jun 09 2007 02:18 PM

GUILTY

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Devoted95 writes:
on Jun 10 2007 01:15 AM

[b]Superman Returns???[/b]
Hey aknddon3..What the hell are you on??? Seriously. You really need help my man..No offense..but Superman Returns the worst comic book movie ever made??? Ohh I'm sorry did you mention earlier you're related to Roger Ebert?? I guess I must've missed it..Lets look at the facts for a tick here shall we..hmmm..According to Rotten Tomatoes, Superman Returns is ranked NUMBER 17 in 100 worst-best comic book movies ever made..what do ya say to that??? eh???...I'm sure its the single worst comic movie ever made!!!!..(HEAVY SARCASM)..
Your opinion is your opinion..not everyone else's

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 10 2007 06:01 AM

In reply to this comment (#868547)
Don't count on him listening. And he'll probably make a comment on the "worst-best comic book movies".

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neoes writes:
on Jun 10 2007 03:59 PM

Oh god....Ghost Rider was so bad...I laughed through the whole thing thinking he honestly wanted to make a comedy. The dialogue, FX, action...everything was awful. I want them to make a sequle so it flops and I can laugh.

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jeremyf1977 writes:
on Jun 11 2007 06:52 AM

In reply to this comment (#868506)
You were voted out? Oh c'omon be a man and think for yourself.

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Plinko writes:
on Jun 11 2007 02:13 PM

I find it hard to believe they spent a lot of cash on Ghost Rider's skull and animation. It was terrible and painful to watch. Everything about this movie was bad, I pirated it off the net, quit watching it and watched porn instead.

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tsalin@hotmail.com writes:
on Jun 12 2007 07:55 AM

ok, everyone sucks.... just thought i'd put my two cents in. let me say this again... shut the fuck up everyone. pick up some lights and a camera and make your own movie. then let all the armchair directors on this freaking blog make all the this sucks, that sucks comments they want...your and idiot, he's an idiot, everybody's and idiot. Go work in the film business you bunch of asses. it the easiest thing in the world to be a critic. try acually using that energy toward coming up with a good idea, try selling it to someone for millions, get a cast and crew. shoot, edit, master. then let all of the fucking idiots in the world who don't know shit about the business, make all of the comments they want. you were the stupid asses who paid the $8.50 or whatever, to go and see it.. you have the choice to see it or not...put things in perspective or go back to reading your comic books... the movies would never be made if they were to sit there and listen to all of you assholes... here's another idea... get involved in a test screening. where your opinion actually matters... untill then please shut the fuck up.

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 12 2007 08:49 AM

In reply to this comment (#868553)
Uh, I am in the film business, so does that mean I can talk and have my opinion mean something :-)

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 12 2007 08:50 AM

In reply to this comment (#868525)
Little Akn, pwned by a 14-year-old. Sweet!

And I recognized the quotes immediately. The ha-ha's in all caps was a dead giveaway.

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tsalin@hotmail.com writes:
on Jun 12 2007 09:58 AM

In reply to this comment (#868554)
ummm no... sorry...
where your press pass?
i need to see some credendials.....
seriously though...
dude i don't really care.... honestly

does every one also have to come up with the "my opinion matters, and i have a right to say something about it" comment.

at the same time. i can say shut the fuck up if i want...cause my opinion matters too .. boo hoo...honestly ther are too many whiney bitches on here that don't know jack shit about the industry, or even broke a sweat getting involved in any aspect of film making accept to sit back and critize others.

so if you have work 18 hour days, 6 days on one off... to get the shot right as can been done in the time and bugdet. then you know you make it the best possible...a team effort from the ground up.
no one person... everyone
but yes if you don't want to step up and put up some effort. go to a comic book web siite and cry on there...
otherwise yes shut the fuck up...
if someone wants to add something that acually is not saying someones an idiot it would be refreshing as hell.

congrates... i'm the film business as well.

go to a test screening...make a difference....

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 12 2007 10:14 AM

In reply to this comment (#868557)
How do you get into test screenings?

And yes, everybody does have to say that because there's always somebody that decides to say their opinion is worthless shit.

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 12 2007 10:29 AM

In reply to this comment (#868557)
Okay, I think you need to calm down a little bit. Obviously you're taking this way too personally. Did you work on Ghost Rider or something? Are you the director?

And when I say I'm in the film business, I mean I am one of the ones working the 6 day weeks and trying to make things that people will enjoy. As a filmmaker I try to do the best job I can within the time and money allowed, but I also understand that not everyone is going to like what I do and that opinions vary. Having an opinion doesn't require knowledge of the film industry, any more than criticizing a book requires knowledge of writing or the publishing industry. Films are made for the public to consume and then offer their opinions. It's everyone's right to express their feelings about an entertainment they've seen. So what if we spent a lot of time and money making it? That's what we chose to do, and it doesn't invalidate anyone's opinion just because they chose not to follow our line of work. And spending money doesn't necessarily make something good.

These are forums with freedom of speech. People are allowed to say what they want. However, I will agree that I wish people would quit belittling other people's opinions and accept that people can differ in thoughts. However, you seem to be going one step further in saying that no one's opinion matters, which is hardly the case.

By the way, shut the **** up is not an opinion, it's a command. Big difference.

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 12 2007 10:30 AM

In reply to this comment (#868558)
The only way to get into press screenings is to be a member of the press, or be friends with one. I'm good friends with our local movie critic, which is why I'll be seeing Transformers on the 28th of June :-)

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tsalin@hotmail.com writes:
on Jun 12 2007 11:16 AM

-not taking it personally. just setting the record straight. and your being in the film business... then you should also know that i'm not talking about the more money you have the better a film will be... in fact i never said that. and lord knows that's not true.

see you went with the whole freeom of speech thing again.. right off the bat...

fine let's talk about freedom for a minute...
ok... any form of media , people curtainly have the right to critique the work. a but you also have the choice not to watch it, listen to it , or buy into it... but name calling, you might have liked a movie and i didn't. or vice versa. to tell someone they are a fucking idiot for not liking something is ubsurd. so in the spirit of ubsurdity i can tell someone to shut the fuck up. sorry "people", to shut the fuck up, because there are plenty of people on here that do nothing to move film as an art form forward. only comment on if someone mispelled something, or put folks down... that is not a free forum.. that's being limited. narrowminded. and being idiots themselves.

wheither one person's opinion truly matters is relative. groups small or large speak in volume...and can make or break an indivual. but does it really matter? honestly? does this blog matter? if it's not proactive then it doesn't matter one dam bit. my words don't mean a dam thing to someone else reading this. and calling some one "poopypants" doesn't mean jack shit to me. it's just waisted breathe. come on the forum by all means. but put something intelligent, and thought provoking on here.

-yes you do need the hook up to get in. and you are a lucky bastard for getting to get in early screening on the 28th!

that was my point.. work at it. don't sit back and bitch.....

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tsalin@hotmail.com writes:
on Jun 12 2007 11:23 AM

batspideykong....

dude they have them in the papers sometimes. and local filmakers are always up for showing their stuff. film showings. sometimes they are not the finished product. and the director accept input and the end of the screening. check the paper, net... they're out there hiding....

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 12 2007 12:28 PM

In reply to this comment (#868559)
Mark Steven Johnson, the director of Ghost Rider, thought it blew, so I think he'd be agreeing with you if he were the director. I know you weren't serious about it ;), just thought you should know.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 12 2007 12:29 PM

In reply to this comment (#868562)
I better get reading. Thanks.

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 12 2007 12:48 PM

In reply to this comment (#868561)
Okay, so I think I've come to the conclusion that we agree, but I just missed that from your initial post. Yes, people should be allowed to express their opinion without fear of being called names. And yes, there are plenty of people on here who don't seem to want to follow the basic rules of civility, but that's been the unfortunate truth of the internet since it became a means of vox populi. Hazards of a free society.

I think in trying to illustrate your point, you just came across as a jerk, because I completely missed the point, and you're obviously not a jerk. That's the danger of text based communication, when there's no inflection to help illustrate the meaning behind your words.

I also agree that people should be more proactive, but I'm afraid there we are fighting a losing battle. Entropy is a force that most people can't overcome.

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 12 2007 12:51 PM

In reply to this comment (#868563)
Heh, I didn't realize that. Pretty bad when the director disowns his own product.

Hey, how does everybody else get emoticons in their posts. Is there some switched I need to have turned on or some keyboard command I'm not familiar with? You're a teenager, teach an old guy something new.

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DANAD01 writes:
on Jun 12 2007 01:16 PM

[b]I thought it was a blast[/b]
It was just good escapism and that's all I was looking for. Some of you guys need to lighten up. It's a movie. Take all that pissy energy and put it into something constructive.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Jun 12 2007 01:42 PM

In reply to this comment (#868562)
I kindof agree with some of your points, but the claim that everyone should take part in the process in order to have an opinion is a little absurd and also counterproductive. First of all I'm of the opinion that paying $10 to be disappointed by a film pretty much entitles the payee to have an opinion and like it or not these forums help the film industry to spur interest. I realize you are probably coming at this from the film as an artform standpoint based on your comments, but many of us don't or at least believe that their is a balance to be struck between artform and entertainment. Anyone who's seen a film and viewed it as entertainment is just as qualified as the films producer or whatever to state how entertaining they found it. I do agree though that people should at least attempt to walk a mile in the movie makers shoe's before just coming out with the "this sucks" or "this guy is a hack" comments, but ya have to realize this is a fan sight, not a film industry guild discussion panel.

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pinkincide writes:
on Jun 12 2007 01:42 PM

Well, all I really wanted was some good escapism, but it really failed horribly on even that level. This flick felt so direct-to-video it was painful. They thought all they had to do was get a few glory shots of him on his bike and they had a movie--saved a lot of money on fight choreographers that way. What cracked me up was how much damage he did to everything just by riding through. He's the last guy you want coming to your rescue.

They took such a potentially cool character and castrated it. Maybe they'll do Ghostrider Begins and forget this ever happened. Sounds like they're doing that with Spawn, who's practically the same character, costumes aside.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 12 2007 03:45 PM

In reply to this comment (#868547)
Are you joking? Is that the reason why the movie tanked in the theatres and dvd sales?

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 12 2007 03:45 PM

In reply to this comment (#868555)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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aknddon3 writes:
on Jun 12 2007 03:47 PM

In reply to this comment (#868570)
Yep spawn is a complete ripoff of Ghost Rider.

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Silverence writes:
on Jun 12 2007 05:04 PM

uh? did anyone else catch the Preacher mention? Preacher on HBO? If it wasn't for the god awful producer that this story is talking about doing it I would be REALLY excited. Cept i dont really think that Preacher is gunna fly, even on HBO. Remember that ending?

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 12 2007 06:22 PM

In reply to this comment (#868567)
He wanted to make it a darker, more serious movie that could be experienced through theaters.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 12 2007 06:23 PM

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Yeah, I bet Bryan singer was really depressed over 200 million.

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RexLaboro writes:
on Jun 12 2007 08:27 PM

It didnt hit me until I saw the trailer for NEXT which was after seeing the WICKERMAN on a borrowed DVD that Nicholas Cage sucks ass. Sorry Nick. At some point, a looooong time ago, he stopped being cool. Now that I think about it, he cant even act, or hes basically stuck in the same character mode in EVERY film hes in. He was so outta place in Ghost Rider it was ridiculous. I guess I never noticed because films like FACE-OFF, SNAKE-EYES, CON AIR, and THE ROCK dont require much of his characters and he fit it. Now it seems like he turns anything he touches into an unintentional paraody of itself with each monotone, dry, word he delivers. I'm going to say KISS OF DEATH and RAISING ARIZONA was his greatest performance. Thank god he was never SUPERMAN. thank, god!!!!

ps: I'm coping that GhostRider DVD. This is one of the bad films thats so bad its entertaining. I was crying in the theatre everytime he flamed on.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 13 2007 06:37 AM

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Nick Cage can't act? I'll disagree with one word: ADAPTATION.

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 13 2007 07:39 AM

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And I'll second that with MOONSTRUCK.

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tsalin@hotmail.com writes:
on Jun 13 2007 07:50 AM

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no guild discusion panel here. Sorry bigbrother, my "ole arch nemesis" hahahahahah..........

- have to disagree with you.. weither or not the film is entertaining or not. it's still art... infact everything around has been designed.

for the record. like 80 % of these blogs are poeple calling each other idiots. this is directed at some of the other who posted late... sorry dudes but i do take my job seriously. just because you don't. don't let that carry weight on the discussion. keep on serving the french fries....

-as far as lightening up... everybody is on the sight bitching about how bad the movie was....including the director. personally if you go into a movie where a guy turns into a skull and has his head lit on fire. then you are the ones how need a reality check... Yes it's excapism, yes it's totally off the wall silly... but i wasn't going into the movie with um some unrealistic expectations. because it's totally unrealistic to begin with.

-just an example.... ridley scott, is known for being one of the most ball busting anal retensive directors in hollywood. but his atention to detail, blade runner, black hawk down.. man really well put together movies...

again all i was saying is that get involved in the local film making experience rather than stay on these posts and putt'n everyone else down. yes break a sweat... manit will give you a true apreciation for the process of film making... these "behind the scenes" featurettes on dvd are misleading... it shows the director after one take... "OK FOLKS THATS A WRAP" that very really happens and and at the most they need 3 to 4 takes to makes sure they have covered everything... there's alot more to it than just sitting in your comfortable chair in the airconditioning, with the 10 dollar popcorn and 5 dollor coke... dude the screenings, and getting evolved with indie film is exactally how to put your money where your mouth is. and while a write this there are porablly 15 indie films being made around you. and folks would never know it. i was simple saying get involved. do sit in the back and throw peanuts...

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Bigbrother writes:
on Jun 13 2007 08:36 AM

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God love you tsalin, I do so enjoy these discussions. Still disagree with some of your opinions, but acknowledge you as a worthy foe and am not in any way attempting to get you banned from this or any other site :P

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 13 2007 08:49 AM

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Question; did he win an oscar for his role in Adaptation?

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 13 2007 09:08 AM

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Don't know. Don't care. I stopped following the Oscars after Spacey won for American Beauty. But if you're interested, Bats, by all means check out IMDB.

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 13 2007 09:51 AM

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At the risk of getting off on another yes/no tangent, I think the Oscar Spacey won was well deserved. He did an excellent job in that film and made Lester a very memorable character. I honestly don't even remember who was up against him that year.

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 13 2007 09:58 AM

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But don't get involved just because tsalin says so. Only get involved if you truly have an interest in the process. Filmmaking is hard work with long hours and lots of stress and it's either in you or not. No room for half-measures.

But I also still think people have the right to critique and like or not like something without having to be involved or "do it themselves" After all, not everybody who wants to be a filmmaker should be, and those of us in the business chose to get involved, so I don't feel anyone owes me good comments just because I do it and they don't. You'll either like what I do or you won't. What getting involved may do is show you the struggle in getting a film made (sometimes it's a wonder they do get made) and make you appreciate the art more, but it still won't necessarily make you like movies any better. I know exactly what goes into the process and there are still plenty of movies I don't like.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Jun 13 2007 01:31 PM

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Plus he had the best acceptance line..."This is the best thing that's happened to me all day" :) and Bats I don't think Cage won for Adaptation. James Coburn won supporting actor for his role in that film, but not Cage. though I'm drawing a blank on who exactly won that year. Was that Adrien Brody's year?

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knowingtoast85 writes:
on Jun 14 2007 02:49 AM

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You mean Chris Cooper, and yep, Brody took it that year.

I didn't see Ghost Rider, don't intend to, this means I shouldn't be commenting. In any case, I don't see this getting off the ground.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 14 2007 03:58 AM

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Look who he was up against that year, see the performances, and come back and tell me you still think he deserved it. Hey, nothing against Spacey. But hell no. That's my last "off on a tangent" comment.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Jun 14 2007 04:37 AM

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Chris Cooper for what? James Coburn won for playing Nic Cage's dad in Adaptation.

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moviemann45 writes:
on Jun 14 2007 08:10 AM

If more action means less of Nicolas Cage's horrible acting AND country accent, im in!

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 14 2007 08:33 AM

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I didn't see Sweet and Lowdown or Hurricane, so I can't really say, but I thought he was better than Russell Crowe in the Insider. Farnsworth was real good, but that's a close call.

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Vitamin M writes:
on Jun 14 2007 08:56 AM

[b]Ghost Rider should be a scary film!!![/b]
as a long ago comic geek it was nice to see Ghost Rider on the big screen, I thought the animation of him driving around and on fire was decent and that's where the movie stops being good. the basic plot was simplistic but if handled right it could have been much better. Johnson is a craptacular director. he destroyed Daredevil. He's destroyed every film he's worked on. I'm guessing he just dosn't have the balls to stand up to a studio exec and that's why he keeps making mediocre films that gross $90 mil but could have easyily doubled that if they had been any good.
Ghost rider should be a scary film. the audience should be gripping the seat not laughing at bad dialouge and cheesy one liners.

Superman Returns wasn't that bad, it was just "meh" when it should have been "Yeah!" Then again I just don't give a crap about his mythology. Unlike the Spiderman films which keeps pissing me off because I love the comic book character.

Now they are making Thor...that one probably will be scary.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 14 2007 10:01 AM

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Damn. Ok... Well yeah, I agree. He was better than Crowe that year. But if you see Hurricane (and I recommend you check it out), then you'll probably be just as pissed off as I still am about it. Spacey was good. And American Beauty? I own a copy. So there's no bias. But that statue was Denzel's all the way. Totally totally totally. lol.

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Matanuki writes:
on Jun 14 2007 10:22 AM

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Let me get back on topic to say... I agree with everything you just said, Vitamin M. Two thumbs up. For these guys, making a great film takes a backseat to raking in a lot of underserved cash. That's why the entire marketing campaign for Spiderman 3 was a complete lie. That's why Ghost Rider was a hokey PG laugh laugh snicker snicker disaster (ditto for Spawn). And that's why Daredevil was a toothless joke.

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gorillagolanking writes:
on Jun 14 2007 12:08 PM

[b]Well...[/b]
I sure hope not. What would be the point of continuing this painful to watch movie?

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Ashron writes:
on Jun 14 2007 12:44 PM

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You're just saying Denzel should get it because you're black.

Okay, totally kidding. Hurricane is on my Netflix list and once I see it, I'll get back to you. Don't know why I haven't seen it yet, because I love Denzel, but I'm not a big fan of boxing movies, so one kind of cancels out the other.

Now, back on topic. I haven't seen Ghost Rider and probably won't until it shows up on HBO, so I can't really comment on it, which is of course why I have about 6 posts in this topic :-)

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Sputnik99 writes:
on Jun 14 2007 02:53 PM

[b]Good News![/b]
I just read that Kevin Feige from Marvel Studios has heard of no discussions about a Ghost Rider sequel.

Perhaps all you haters will be spared!

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=21025

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killthemall4444 writes:
on Jun 14 2007 07:50 PM

Oh joy.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 15 2007 09:24 AM

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Avi Arad had already announced Ghost Rider 2 at a press event.

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Devoted95 writes:
on Jun 15 2007 06:38 PM

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[b]Excuse Me??[/b]
I hate to disagree with you there Sir, but are you that ignorant to believe that a movie's quality is judged by its box-office record????..Yeah the film tanked at the box-office so does that mean its the worst-comic book movie ever??..hmmmm lets see here shall we, according to your pathetic theory, last year's X-Men 3 and Pirates 2 had got to be one of the best films of the year..right?????..based on their record-breaking world-wide box office, and DVD sales. You gonna have to do better than that mate..LOL

" Alright folks nothin to see here show's over, c'mon lets move it people, nothing to see here..........Oh My God!!! geez, Oh My!!! everyone c'mon look at this, ohh gezz ohh no, everyone take a load of this"
- Chief Wiggum, The Simpsons

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Jun 15 2007 06:50 PM

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He keeps coming up with reasons for why he's right and everybody else that disagrees with him is wrong. Box office decides how many people saw the movie; not how many liked it, aknddon3.

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Estorium writes:
on Oct 11 2007 05:10 AM

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To tsalin@hotmail.com . I've noticed in your bio that you have a list of the worst movies ever, which includes Rainman. Now, I may be dreaming, but is it not a little hypocritical to be shouting other posters down for expressing their opinion on a movie they believe to be rubbish, when you yourself have a list of rubbish movies, along with comments such as this movie "oh my god bad"?

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