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Old 06-30-2003, 10:26 AM
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Raoul Walsh & Kirk Douglas (BPSJ)

Welcome to Best Posters Since Jabba-became-too-lazy-to-finish-what-he-started. If you are on the schedule please tell me your directors and actors as soon as possible.

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You may begin posting your lists now for Raoul Walsh (top five films) & Kirk Douglas (top five performances). I will post the results on Monday, July 14th. On Monday, the 7th, I will start the next BPSJ thread, which will have its usual two week run.

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Old 06-30-2003, 11:25 AM
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Raoul Walsh
High Sierra
They Drive by Night
White Heat
The Man I Love
Pursued


Kirk Douglas
Ace in the Hole/The Big Carnival
Paths of Glory
Champion
There Was a Crooked Man
Seven Days in May


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Old 06-30-2003, 11:58 AM
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I've seen fewer than 20 Walsh films, only a fraction of his output, but most have ranged from really good to great. The one I saw most recently was an entertaining but seemingly forgotten Western called Cheyenne.

Walsh:
1. White Heat
2. Gentleman Jim
3. The Strawberry Blonde
4. High Sierra
5. The Thief of Bagdad

I've seen 40 Douglas features, as well as a couple of TV movies. Hard to pick 5!

Douglas:
1. The Big Carnival
2. The Bad and the Beautiful
3. Lonely are the Brave
4. There Was a Crooked Man
5. Young Man with a Horn

High among the runners-up: The Indian Fighter.
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I've only seen four Walsh films, all of which I've liked a lot.

White Heat
The Strawberry Blonde
The Roaring Twenties
High Sierra

Kirk Douglas:
1. Paths of Glory
2. The Bad and the Beautiful
3. Seven Days in May
4. Spartacus
5. Lonely Are the Brave
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Kirk Douglas
01. Lust for Life
02. The Bad and the Beautiful
03. Spartacus
04. Champion
05. A Letter to Three Wives
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Old 07-01-2003, 06:30 AM
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Walsh isn't someone I'm familiar enough with to comment on, but Kirk Douglas is my favourite actor and IMHO, the best screen actor from that golden age Hollywood generation that is slowly dying off (ie Peck and Jimmy Stewart). He took the sort of risks few leading men did in his day (ie producing untouchable projects and breaking the Mcarthy Blacklist) and was an actor, not just a movie star. I admire the fact that even when he was considered one of the top 3 leading men in Hollywood, he would regularly take supporting roles (In Harms Way, with John Wayne being a good example) as long as it was a great part, instead of having to be the lead all the time.Douglas was also responsible for taking a chance on the vision of Stanley Kubrick when no one else was interested, for which we all owe him a considerable debt. We live in an era when it's a big deal for a movie star like Bruce Willis to give a noteworthy performance once every few years.Kirk Douglas routinely gave great performance, and in all the movies I've seen from him, never gave a bad one. The only modern movie star of his ability and screen presence I can compare him to is Russell Crowe.It's criminal that he never won an acting oscar, but his driven nature as both a producer an actor meant he wasn't very well liked (okay, that's code for the guy was a jerk.But he's become a great and nice man in his old age
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1 Paths of Glory
2 Lust for Life
3 Spartacus
4 Champion
5 The Bold and the Beautiful

Honorable mentions: Ace In The Hole
Gunfight at the OK Corral
Detective Story
The Vikings
Lonely are the brave
In Harms Way
Seven Days In May
Town Without Pity

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A couple of tough ones to whittle down to a top five, but here's how mine work today:

Raoul Walsh
1. High Sierra (1941)
2. Thief of Bagdad, The (1924)
3. Roaring Twenties, The (1939)
4. White Heat (1949)
5. Gentleman Jim (1942)

Some others that almost made it....
Captain Horatio Hornblower (1951)
They Died with Their Boots On (1941)
Strawberry Blonde, The (1941)
Me and My Gal (1932)
Klondike Annie (1936) (ya gotta love Mae West )
Objective, Burma! (1945)

Kirk Douglas
1. Paths of Glory (1957)
2. Seven Days in May (1964)
3. Spartacus (1960)
4. Detective Story (1951)
5. 20000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954) (I just love this movie too much to not include it )

Any of these others should have taken the place of #5 above:
Vikings, The (1958)
Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (1957)
Lust for Life (1956)
Big Sky, The (1952)
Young Man with a Horn (1950)
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Raoul Walsh (his only acting credit was in Birth of a Nation playing John Wilkes Booth!) but as a director, Walsh was one of the greatest:

1. White Heat
2. Pursued
3. They Drive by Night
4. High Sierra
5. Strawberry Blonde

Kirk Douglas

1. The Bad and the Beautiful
2. Detective Story
3. Paths of Glory
4. Lust for Life
5. Out of the Past (I know there's plenty of other lead roles to choose from, but Douglas' slimy Whit Sterling is great!)
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5. Out of the Past (I know there's plenty of other lead roles to choose from, but Douglas' slimy Whit Sterling is great!)
I almost went with his weak-willed, alcoholic Walter O'Neill in The Strange Love of Martha Ivers
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I almost went with his weak-willed, alcoholic Walter O'Neill in The Strange Love of Martha Ivers
A great supporting performance!

Hell, I even briefly considered his role(s) in The List of Adrian Messenger!
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Raoul Walsh

1. Pursued
2. High Sierra
3. The Strawberry Blonde
4. The Roaring Twenties
5. They Drive by Night

Kirk Douglas

1. Paths of Glory
2. The Bad and the Beautiful
3. Spartacus
4. Seven Days in May
5. A Letter to Three Wives
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Holding off on Walsh until I see Objective, Burma this week.

As for Kirk Douglas:

1. Paths of Glory
2. Lust for Life
3. The Bad and the Beautiful
4. The Big Carnival
5. Lonely are the Brave
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Burma doesn't make the cut...

Top Five Walsh
1. White Heat
2. The Roaring Twenties
3. High Sierra
4. Pursued
5. Gentleman Jim
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Since these are my picks, I'm gonna try to find some interesting quotes and factoids on Walsh and Douglas sometime this week. For now, here are my picks:

Raoul Walsh
1) White Heat
2) Pursued
3) Objective Burma
4) Gentleman Jim
5) Captain Horatio Hornblower

6) The Roaring Twenties


Kirk Douglas
1) The Bad and the Beautiful
2) Out of the Past
3) Spartacus
4) Lonely are the Brave
5) Paths of Glory

Tied for sixth:

The Big Sky
The Last Train from Gun Hill
A Letter to Three Wives
Lust for Life
Two Weeks in Another Town
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Comeprehensive Results

Raoul Walsh
1. White Heat - 29
2. High Sierra - 22
3. Pursued - 16
4. The Roaring Twenties - 11
5. The Strawberry Blond - 10
6t. They Drive By Night - 8
6t. Gentleman Jim - 8
8. The Thief of Bagdad - 5
9. Objective Burma - 3
10. The Man I Love - 2
11. Captain Horatio Hornblower - 1

Kirk Douglas
1. Paths of Glory - 33
2. The Bad and the Beautiful - 30
3. Spartacus - 17
4. Lust for Life - 15
5. Ace in the Hole/The Big Carnival - 2
6. Seven Days in May - 10
7t. Champion - 7
7t. Lonely are the Brave - 7
9. Detective Story - 6
10. Out of the Past - 5
11. There Was a Crooked Man - 4
12. A Letter to Three Wives - 2
13t. Young Man with a Horn - 1
13t. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea - 1
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