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DING DONG! "Hey Michael, got another project for me?" Yes I really think Ben would be that dumb.
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Red flames??? UGH! This movie is not going to stand Sho's patiently loose scrutiny. Die, Michael Bay! Die!
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This will kick ***. I know it. To Bay or not to Bay...that is the question...
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Oh dear this is going to be horrible... like... Michael Bay horrible...
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this thread needs fewer long-*** articles and duplicate pictures. and more intelligent conversation.
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Anyone hear the rumor that Sean Connery will voice Megatron and Steve Buscemi will voice Star Scream?
![]() Bay: "Ok Sean, now just say these lines and say it like you are an evil menacing robot, ok?" Connery: "Dammit boy, didn't I tell you to call me Mishta Cawnnery? The Rock was only good cause I was in it. Now gimme that damn script and get me a frapuccino, its gonna be a looong day." Last edited by MikeBayBuff8818; 07-13-2006 at 03:56 PM. |
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Aren't these types of Threads supposed to be discussed by a conversation of 5+ about a movie...?
Never again MBB.
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Anyways....I cannot stand MikeBayBuff at all, she should be shot if anyone....but I will say this and I know I will get ragged on for it....Im stoked for this movie....its going to kick ***, michael bay movies are terrible in every way exept the action, and im all for his style of action, its intense and noone does it like him, i think this movie will be fun and extremely entertaining. But MikeBay Buff just shoot yourself and stop making threads and annoying everyone.....anf Ritson please get a new Av |
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Wow, MikeBayBuff, you're really pushing for discussion, huh? You didn't even respond to my lengthy post. I didn't expect you to listen ... but to ignore it all together? Wow, that's harsh.
This entire thread is just you whoring your unwarranted love for this hack of a director.
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tosser. Last edited by Dogfingers; 07-13-2006 at 07:37 PM. |
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Last edited by MikeBayBuff8818; 07-13-2006 at 07:47 PM. |
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Bad Boys: * The Rock: ***1/2 Armageddon: ** Pearl Harbor: * Bad Boys II: * The Island: *** I don't hate his films (not all of them, at least). I think you read me wrong. I'm not a film snob, nor am I an elitist by any means. I simply know an incompetent director when I see one. Bay has made the occasional decent action flick. I actually love The Rock, it's one of my favorite action movies. However, Bay is not the right choice for a Transformers film. He just isn't. It's like sticking Tim Burton with a Thundercats film -- it just doesn't work. He isn't a great action director, he's a great chase sequence director. A great action film looks like Die Hard, Predator, Terminator 2, Aliens, Raiders of the Lost Ark ... all of these films thrill without being cold, empty lifeless things. Michael Bay lacks a sense of nuance and depth, and simply blows things up for two hours. I saw a glimmer of hope with his recent The Island, which feels like two different films. The first half is fantastic, the second half his usual dull action. All I'm saying is that I don't feel like Bay is the right choice. You, who claim to be film savvy, should take my opinion and engage in a discussion, not accuse me of snobbery. It's just my opinion, like it nor not. And yes, if the film starts to look good, if the early word is that it's going to be a good flick, my hopes will perk up. I'm a very open-minded person when it comes to film. Anyway, my two cents.
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Some action films TRY to be smart or emotional or include social commentary or drama or intelligence. Films like Die Hard, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Face Off, Terminator 2, Black Hawk Down, etc. Others just want to be FUN and entertain. Action comedies such as the Lethal Weapon films and Rush Hour movies are huge box office hits for a reason. People like to have fun. Action films can be funny too. Bay makes fun action films, not serious ones. Pearl Harbor and The Island were his first "serious" action films. But his heart is at making films fun for the young crowds. I love that. Not every action film has to be serious or deep. I think Will and Martin are HILARIOUS in Bad Boys and that is why I can watch that film all day everyday forever and never get sick of it. It is still my favorite Bay film. Some of us have different humor. I love Seinfeld and Martin Lawrence's old TV show Martin and Fresh Prince of Bel Air and Harold and Kumar, some do not. That is fine. Some people might not find Martin playing with a dead woman's breasts in Bad Boys 2 funny, but I did (and so did the crowd at the theater I saw it with). Some might not find Eddie Griffin in Armageddon funny when he says to the fat Hawaiin guy, "N!88a you lucky I'm Christian or I'd beat the sh*t outta yo pineapple eatin' @$$!" Or in Bad Boys when the store guy pulls the gun on Martin and Will (Freeze you motha B!tch*s!) and they pull their guns right back and askf or skittles and gum. HILARIOUS. Or the impotence and ecstacy jokes in Bad Boys 2. Bay wants to make us laugh and hold our seats during the car chases and root for the hero and hate the bad guy. Simple stuff really. And he does it everytime. And when I see an action film I want style put into it. When you watch a Bay film you know he directed it. How many directors can you say that about. Hitchcock once said the sign of a great director is to watch his film in silence and just know from what you see who directed it. How many directors working today can you do that with? Not many. His swirling 360 degree camera angles, the jump cuts, the slow motion, the fast paced editing, his high octane car chases with expensive foreign cars every man and woman WISHED they owned and could drive that fast with, his good looking casts, the low angle shots of characters as a plane or chopper flies above their heads in the sky, the hectic gun shootouts, the beautiful and bright cinematography, the evening sun set vistas, the various zoom ins and slow motion turn around shots, everything about his style is AWESOME and the way every action film SHOULD BE. Just my opinion. And how can Michael NOT be the right choice for Transformers? A film about explosions, transforming cars, car chases, the military fighting giant robots, action, adventure...it is ALL his signature. This is the film he was BORN to make. How can this not be the film for him???? Last edited by MikeBayBuff8818; 07-13-2006 at 08:12 PM. |
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Bay just overdoes everything. In stead of walking out of his films with a smile in my face, my blood pumping, I tend to feel like my eyes have just been raped. You shouldn't feel like that walking out of ANY film, let alone an action one. Yes, Bay has does some incredible things in the past with car chases and shootouts ... but at one point does the novelty of that wear off? For me, pretty damn quickly. For some people (namely you) it doesn't happen so soon. Yes, in The Island, they dropped things off the back of a truck and into the path of pursuing cars. I recall an almost identical scene in one of Bay's earlier films. I'll give you a piece of candy if you can guess which one. I'm not saying Transformers is going to be awful. I'm not even saying I won't enjoy it. But I am saying that it's going to be as quick and forgettable as every single one of Bay's other films, and something as beloved as Transformers deserves better. Anyway ... I suppose I'll leave this thread in peace. I've given my opinion and heard yours, and I know that neither of us is going to get anywhere with the other.
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Flashiness is good. It is his trademark. And it is a talent. Spielberg or M. Night Shyamalan or Michael Mann or Richard Donner do not have to put the camera where they do. Brian DePalma didn't need to put the camera angle under the glass table in Mission Impossible. He could have had it at standard eye level with Tom. But directors use certain tricks to enhance the paranoid-ness or excitement of a scene. Bay can make the most mundane thing COOL (men walking down a hallway or getting out of a car or chopper, a man taking a key out his pocket to open a door, dropping the empty clip from out of your gun) by putting the camera in an interesting place or playing it in slow motion. Is Bay the most original director ever? No. Even he admits his style started as hybrid of John Woo and Tony Scott but he has grown into creating his own unique style that is now one of the most immitated in Hollywood by young flashy action directors (Brett Ratner, Joseph Kahn, John Moore, McG, Clark Johnson, Simon West, Louis Leterrier, Pierre Morrel, etc.). >>He has to do everything big, loud fast and sexy, which are good things in action film ... to an extent. I disagree. It is his style and I love it. Actions films should be that way. His films represent a world I'd want to live in (and he himself has said they represent a perfect fantasy world for him). Everyone is beautiful, everyone has a $500,000 car and drives it as fast as they want, the sun is always setting creating just the right light for a romantic moment, the bad guys always gets his due, the good guy always wins, characters of different races, beliefs, and backgrounds are forced to work together and be partners (hard working Martin and rich playboy Will in Bad Boys films, Nic Cage and Connery in the Rock, the crazy team in Armageddon especially Bruce and Affleck who hate each other, etc.). >>Bay just overdoes everything. In stead of walking out of his films with a smile in my face, my blood pumping, I tend to feel like my eyes have just been raped. You shouldn't feel like that walking out of ANY film, let alone an action one. That is you, but I leave the film wanting to see it again! Still thinking about the awesome car chase or gun fight scene or whatever. His camera makes you feel as if you are IN the film, rather than just watching it. I leave feeling excited, pumped up, reciting jokes characters said, and overall, entertained, which is exactly what every summer blockbuster SHOULD do. >>Yes, in The Island, they dropped things off the back of a truck and into the path of pursuing cars. I recall an almost identical scene in one of Bay's earlier films. I'll give you a piece of candy if you can guess which one. You mean which two....Bad Boys (1995) where they leave the dance club and are in the truck with the Ether as Will tosses the ether out of the truck into the way of the bad guys, who are driving after them and Will shoots the Ether barrels exploding them. Then in Bad Boys 2 the cars are being tossed at Martin and Will in their Ferrari on the freeway. Oh yea, and the scene in Bad Boys 2 where they steal the car from Dan Marino and chase after the bad guys who toss dead bodies out of the back of a truck into their way. Yea so what? He can do the same exact thing every film but if he does it in an entertaining way that is someone what different each time, I'll love it. I mean if you wanna be over analytical about it, all car chases in ALL films are the same. Someone is chasing someone and cars are in the way and cars crash and someone is shooting at someone. All action movies are just the same scenario shot in a different way and in a different sequence. Just enjoy the ride man. Stop thinking so much. >>I'm not saying Transformers is going to be awful. I'm not even saying I won't enjoy it. But I am saying that it's going to be as quick and forgettable as every single one of Bay's other films, and something as beloved as Transformers deserves better. It will not be forgettable, at least not to Transformers lovers, Bay lovers, and action junkies (like me). Besides it will be hard to forget the film since it will be the first of a trilogy (all directed by Mike Bay). ![]() Dammit, I said NO CAMERAS! Let the genius work in peace! Last edited by MikeBayBuff8818; 07-13-2006 at 09:23 PM. |
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i want to hurt you for your love of Michael Bay.
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You just let slip Michael Bay's greatest downfall -- if your brain is operating at any level above "Ooh, guns and boobs!" his films leave so much to be desired. Anyway, I'll leave for real now. I'm sorry, I just had to respond to that one thing in your reply. I'm gone! *POOF*
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![]() Bay: "Ok Martin, now Will is gonna call you a b!t*h, is that ok?" Martin Lawrence: "Naw dog, see dat, dat ain't goin' down. See all dis right here (grabs crotch), that's all man, das what dat is. I ain't no b!t*h." ![]() Bay: "Damn it I told them one milk & two sugars, not two milks and one sugar! How hard is it to get a cup of coffee right?" ![]() Bay: "You wish you were this sexy." ![]() Bay: (thinking to himself) "Hmm, how can I crash all these cars and kill as few stunt men as possible?" ![]() Bay: "Man Ben you sure can make some funny faces." Affleck: "Umm, no I can't breathe. It's too tight!" Bay: "Haha, stop it, your hilarious..." Affleck: "No, seriously...I....can't...brea..." ![]() SWAT team: "Mr. Bay, you are under arrest!" Bay: "Hey hey stop it, I'm a famous movie director. What did I do?" SWAT team: "For refusing to cut your hair!" ![]() Bay: "So Ben, lets say me and you hit the strip club tonight?" Ben: "I thought we were gonna shoot that dramatic scene tonight with me and Kate?" Bay: "Nahh, I decided to cut that scene out. We're replacing it with that scene where you shoot those Japs with your machine gun. It's gonna rule!" ![]() Bay: "Ok Scarlett time for your close up. No don't turn around, stay right there...we're gonna zoom in on your @$$ right here." ![]() Bay: "Wait a second, did I pay that hooker last night?" ![]() Bay: "Maybe if I hide behind this glass door window they won't see me." |
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"Juno" (B) A funny, realistic flick that teenagers will be quoting for months. "Atonement" (A) A heartbreaking, beautifully shot film. "Cube" (C+) Amazing what they did on a small budget. "Ginger Snaps" (A) Excellent cult classic. Hope the sequel is decent. "Joshua" (B+) An interesting take on the creepy child genre. Currently Reading: Monster Island by David Wellington. Check this author out. He's amazing. |
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Idle curiosity leads me to ask: Any word as to whether or not the classic "transform" sound effects are going to be recreated or if it's just gonna be a lot of whirring and clanking when they transform?
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*Breathes* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA God your a ****ing Moron.
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I mean ... GOOD LORD, WOMAN! Michael Bay superior to Terrence Malick? Not in the minds of the most severely retarded is this statement even remotely true. You, ma'am, are the most ignorant moron I have ever come across. And I mean that with every fiber of my being.
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