[Christiane F]

you get the same effect watching professional wrestling, or a commercial for military recruitment, i like violence but not the latently homosexual brand 300 offers. why am i the only one in the theater to laugh when the main character has his naked *** to the camera in the moonlight. why did the persian leader rub the spartan leaders shoulders as they dialogued. why did they rip off the golem from lord of the rings, with a random cg creature trailing them through the hills. why did the persian leader look exactly like dhalsim from street fighter. the holocaust chic of the piled dead bodies was a new low for hollywood artificiality. when the metal faced 'immortals' reminded me of skeletor and the spartans of he man, i left the theater and took a piss on my ticket in the urinal, i reflected on sexual experimentation and thought about getting a gym membership, frank miller fans are in for a disappointment, tom of finland fans on the other hand...

[1LAwoman]

Originally Posted by Christiane F

you get the same effect watching professional wrestling, or a commercial for military recruitment, i like violence but not the latently homosexual brand 300 offers. why am i the only one in the theater to laugh when the main character has his naked *** to the camera in the moonlight. why did the persian leader rub the spartan leaders shoulders as they dialogued..

The bare *** was for the many women who flocked to this film.
The shoulder rub was setting it up as an other wordly creature--the devil's temptation type of scenario. Maybe they could have shot that a little differently and still achieved that effect. I'll agree that it was probably my least favorie scene of the film.
I won't comment on the LOTR-style creatures. Either you dig that or you don't.

[locks1202]

300 hundred muscle marys = not gay hmmmmmnnn. This was the most homoerotic film I have ever seen. Even the sex scenes with women were put in there to kind of 'straighten' out the film and seemed wrong! Even the scene with the persian women hinted at lesbanism! The Persian king was like a drag queen. The scene with the queen hinted at a stereotyped woman hating often associated with gay ment. The sex scenes were prodominately 'from the back'. But then the spartans/Greeks generally did prize homosexuality above sex with women (women were for breeding) so no great surprise really. All my gay friends love the film, I liked it (am straight). Gayer than Spartacus.

[locks1202]

A recent review says " “Not since Brokeback Mountain has a gay movie become such a stunning hit in America,” said one staffer. “The Spartans were the ancient world's version of big hulking hunks of gym-obsessed homosexuality. In fact, according to historians, having queer relations was pretty much standard policy among the Spartans.”

[lisius]

All I know is that I did not get a gay vibe from this movie at all. Other than maybe off of some of the Persians.

My only theory is that those who did get a gay vibe have latent homosexual tendancies. Or are just flat out gay themselves.

[locks1202]

Yes I have latent homosexual tendancies towards men.....I am a woman dumb ***. You do not have to be gay (and who care if people are) to see that this film is homoerotic. Just because you dont does not make it not so. And why is it that people get so defensive that a film could not possibly be about being gay? Its ok for women to be seen as sex objects and have films which have expliit sex scenes but the minute one is seen as a bit gay people get hysterical like to admit it would make themselves gay. I know Pleasantville is about racism, doesnt make me black.

[lisius]

Originally Posted by locks1202

Yes I have latent homosexual tendancies towards men.....I am a woman dumb ***. You do not have to be gay (and who care if people are) to see that this film is homoerotic. Just because you dont does not make it not so. And why is it that people get so defensive that a film could not possibly be about being gay? Its ok for women to be seen as sex objects and have films which have expliit sex scenes but the minute one is seen as a bit gay people get hysterical like to admit it would make themselves gay. I know Pleasantville is about racism, doesnt make me black.

Well, I have to admit that if it was a bunch of half naked women they were showing fighting together then I would probably be having thoughts much like your own

You did not say that you were a woman in your post BTW. "dumb ***" indeed.

[reuterrat]

Originally Posted by locks1202

A recent review says " “Not since Brokeback Mountain has a gay movie become such a stunning hit in America,” said one staffer. “The Spartans were the ancient world's version of big hulking hunks of gym-obsessed homosexuality. In fact, according to historians, having queer relations was pretty much standard policy among the Spartans.”

Yea, there was most likely homosexuality in ancient Sparta. In fact, it may have even been encouraged. That being said, there was none in the movie. I'm guessing the runners i see running down the street in the middle of the day wearing nothing but tight, short shorts are gay as well.

Seriously, if you think this movie has anything in it about homosexuality you are putting it there yourself.

[USMarine430]

Originally Posted by Christiane F

you get the same effect watching professional wrestling, or a commercial for military recruitment, i like violence but not the latently homosexual brand 300 offers. why am i the only one in the theater to laugh when the main character has his naked *** to the camera in the moonlight. why did the persian leader rub the spartan leaders shoulders as they dialogued. why did they rip off the golem from lord of the rings, with a random cg creature trailing them through the hills. why did the persian leader look exactly like dhalsim from street fighter. the holocaust chic of the piled dead bodies was a new low for hollywood artificiality. when the metal faced 'immortals' reminded me of skeletor and the spartans of he man, i left the theater and took a piss on my ticket in the urinal, i reflected on sexual experimentation and thought about getting a gym membership, frank miller fans are in for a disappointment, tom of finland fans on the other hand...

Here is what we are forgetting. The movie is about the heroic final stand of 300 brave men who undeniably paved the way for a united greece and sparta which was where what happened? DEMOCRACY WAS BORN!!! And yes, this war was bloody and disgusting - it fought with spears and swords! Of course its going to be bloody and violent. What war is fought with down pillows and stun guns? The visual architecture of the film is astonishingly correct in this regard. If you were unaware that there has always been violence in this world, I hope this was a fresh cup of coffe and a loud wake up call.

[thorshammer]

Originally Posted by locks1202

Even the sex scenes with women were put in there to kind of 'straighten' out the film and seemed wrong!

That's so dumb I'm still laughing.

[thorshammer]

Originally Posted by locks1202

A recent review says " “Not since Brokeback Mountain has a gay movie become such a stunning hit in America,” said one staffer. “The Spartans were the ancient world's version of big hulking hunks of gym-obsessed homosexuality. In fact, according to historians, having queer relations was pretty much standard policy among the Spartans.”

Wow, that must really mean you're right.

[druswid]

I don't see why everything nowadays has to be seen in a gay light. Seriously, you'd think gay was the "in thing" these days. Soon enough, the whole planet will be gay and the human population will die off. Insects inherit the earth, game over. But seriously. You have to be actively looking for gay themes to think it's a gay movie. The damn movie's got a historical backdrop. Yeah, it was extraordinarily dressed up in CG flair, and greatly exaggerated, but come on. If they wanted it to be a gay movie, they'd have had gay love scenes, buff men on buff men, and no holds barred. You want a gay movie, go watch brokeback mountain for the umpteenth time. Watch the birdcage, watch anything but this movie. Really. I hope you like gay cowboys.

[Christiane F]

Originally Posted by druswid

I don't see why everything nowadays has to be seen in a gay light. Seriously, you'd think gay was the "in thing" these days. Soon enough, the whole planet will be gay and the human population will die off. Insects inherit the earth, game over. But seriously. You have to be actively looking for gay themes to think it's a gay movie. The damn movie's got a historical backdrop. Yeah, it was extraordinarily dressed up in CG flair, and greatly exaggerated, but come on. If they wanted it to be a gay movie, they'd have had gay love scenes, buff men on buff men, and no holds barred. You want a gay movie, go watch brokeback mountain for the umpteenth time. Watch the birdcage, watch anything but this movie. Really. I hope you like gay cowboys.

"The scenes of a bejeweled, long-fingernailed Xerxes offering King Leonidas peace in exchange for ''submission'' have a decidedly sexual undertone. Snyder says that's not accidental, that it's intended to make young straight males in the audience uncomfortable" from entertainment weekly, Zack Snyder, the director, acknowledges the homosexuality, rock out with your **** out, brokeback mt. olympus

[reuterrat]

Originally Posted by Christiane F

"The scenes of a bejeweled, long-fingernailed Xerxes offering King Leonidas peace in exchange for ''submission'' have a decidedly sexual undertone. Snyder says that's not accidental, that it's intended to make young straight males in the audience uncomfortable" from entertainment weekly, Zack Snyder, the director, acknowledges the homosexuality, rock out with your **** out, brokeback mt. olympus

That doesn't really mean anything. So the bad guy is supposed to make people feel uncomfortable? That's some sort of news? That certainly doesn't make the movie for homosexuals like you originally posted.

[NvM]

In history Sparta actully discouraged homosexuality.
Despite it being normal in other city-states.

And you Frank Miller fans are in for a disapointment?
In the comic, there is plenty of male nudity(not very appearent).

[kyrten]

Originally Posted by NvM

In history Sparta actully discouraged homosexuality.
Despite it being normal in other city-states.

And you Frank Miller fans are in for a disapointment?
In the comic, there is plenty of male nudity(not very appearent).

Umm, I don't know where you got that from, but apprenticed Spartan warriors were encouraged to engage in sexual relations with their master. Plus they believed that you'd fight harder with your lover in the same danger as you. And you also need to remember that they took away the young men and trained them to be warriors all through their puberty. Having not been around women for so long is obviously going to spark some homosexual tendencies.

As for the homosexual tendencies in the film: I can believe some homosexual aspects were thrown in to make people uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean the movie is centered around it. As for all the mostly naked Spartans, bear in mind it is hot in Greece. Also recall that they fought the battle at the HOT GATES. I am not gay, but I would probably not want to wear lots of armor in the weather Greece has to deal with, especially if I'm fighting in a place called the Hot Gates. Does that mean I'm gay? No. It's means I'll be one of the last ones to die from a heatstroke. Assuming the Persians don't kill me first.

druswid is right, you have to be looking for homosexual tendencies to find it in this movie as much as some people think. The theme was Sparta fighting for its freedom and not submitting to Persia. Is that sexual? Only if you want it to be. Then again, anything can be sexual if you want it to be.

"I can't wait for you to type me back a reply. It's the click of your mouse that really sets me off." If you can make posting on rotten tomatoes sound sexual (you'll have to use you imagination for my little quote above) then anything can be sexual. You can make it hetero or homo by simply adding in a few key phrases. Try it some time! If you can do it on a computer, you can probably do it in movies, and just about everything else.

[1LAwoman]

Originally Posted by kyrten

As for the homosexual tendencies in the film: I can believe some homosexual aspects were thrown in to make people uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean the movie is centered around it. As for all the mostly naked Spartans, bear in mind it is hot in Greece. Also recall that they fought the battle at the HOT GATES. I am not gay, but I would probably not want to wear lots of armor in the weather Greece has to deal with, especially if I'm fighting in a place called the Hot Gates. Does that mean I'm gay? No. It's means I'll be one of the last ones to die from a heatstroke. Assuming the Persians don't kill me first.

druswid is right, you have to be looking for homosexual tendencies to find it in this movie as much as some people think. The theme was Sparta fighting for its freedom and not submitting to Persia. Is that sexual? Only if you want it to be. Then again, anything can be sexual if you want it to be.

I'd say relative to Alexander, which was trying to be more seriously based on history and the sexual norms of that period, it was toned down to that not much more than that scene and the effect someone quoted Zack as mentioning.

[imperial_90]

um so what, god i sometimes wonder how a good movie can create such idiotic discussions. So what if they were Bisexual back then? most of the known world was until the coming of christianity to the roman empire, it really isnt a big thing

[DJTJStevens]

Apparently someone didn't watch 'Alexander' with that fairy Colin Farrell... that had all the homosexuality anyone could want and 100% more than I cared to ever see. '300' had no homosexual overtones, that's simply how they dressed at the time.

As for 'military recruiting', I can tell you that trying to get a person to enlist for 'glory' is like trying to get Rosie O'Donnell to diet for her health... ain't happening. Like the movie tries to get across, war and fighting is about freedom, 'glory' is for fools to chase. We remember those who have fallen for what they've given us.

TJS

two thumbs up and a ja rly ;}

[shazyb]

Originally Posted by Christiane F

you get the same effect watching professional wrestling, or a commercial for military recruitment, i like violence but not the latently homosexual brand 300 offers. why am i the only one in the theater to laugh when the main character has his naked *** to the camera in the moonlight. why did the persian leader rub the spartan leaders shoulders as they dialogued. why did they rip off the golem from lord of the rings, with a random cg creature trailing them through the hills. why did the persian leader look exactly like dhalsim from street fighter. the holocaust chic of the piled dead bodies was a new low for hollywood artificiality. when the metal faced 'immortals' reminded me of skeletor and the spartans of he man, i left the theater and took a piss on my ticket in the urinal, i reflected on sexual experimentation and thought about getting a gym membership, frank miller fans are in for a disappointment, tom of finland fans on the other hand...

hahahahah man ur so right !:P

[shazyb]

Originally Posted by locks1202

300 hundred muscle marys = not gay hmmmmmnnn. This was the most homoerotic film I have ever seen. Even the sex scenes with women were put in there to kind of 'straighten' out the film and seemed wrong! Even the scene with the persian women hinted at lesbanism! The Persian king was like a drag queen. The scene with the queen hinted at a stereotyped woman hating often associated with gay ment. The sex scenes were prodominately 'from the back'. But then the spartans/Greeks generally did prize homosexuality above sex with women (women were for breeding) so no great surprise really. All my gay friends love the film, I liked it (am straight). Gayer than Spartacus.

lol even the queen gets rapped willingly lol, coz shez been thirsty for a strong ****

[FiachraToadstool]

Originally Posted by DJTJStevens

Apparently someone didn't watch 'Alexander' with that fairy Colin Farrell... that had all the homosexuality anyone could want and 100% more than I cared to ever see. '300' had no homosexual overtones, that's simply how they dressed at the time.

As for 'military recruiting', I can tell you that trying to get a person to enlist for 'glory' is like trying to get Rosie O'Donnell to diet for her health... ain't happening. Like the movie tries to get across, war and fighting is about freedom, 'glory' is for fools to chase. We remember those who have fallen for what they've given us.

TJS

two thumbs up and a ja rly ;}

Yeah the reason the spartans managed to defeat was because of the armour. Spartan and other Greek troops wore a breastplate, a bronze helmet with cheekplates, greaves, and a bronze-plated shield approximately 3 feet in diameter. The armor weighed a total of about 60 pounds (27 kilograms). If they had gone out in the man thongs shown in the movie they would have been slaughtered! Sorry but I think they were half naked so people could see their rock hard 8-packs: all for the sex

[SundayJam]

"Well, I have to admit that if it was a bunch of half naked women they were showing fighting together then I would probably be having thoughts much like your own." (ilisius)

Actually, Frank Miller did the naked women fighting thing in Sin City. The story had more plot, and showed more tits, but didn't do nearly as well as this homoerotic flick.

Seriously, you will watch better fighting scenes at the local Ballet than watching The 300. You'll certainly get better sexual gratification watching a porno, and more story as well.

He-man and battle cat wage war against Skeletor. :-)

[1LAwoman]

I think this woman among many had a "whole 'nother" reaction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuVAEi0FFlk

[n0bi]

...yet another person who surely giggles whenever they hear the word 'penis'. Altough I'll admit I also left the theater thinking of getting a gym membership

[styxx679]

really now, who cares if a movie had anything "gay" about it? does it matter? this movie was not meant to be moving or touching... it's an artistic film. paintings from all ages may seem to have very VERY heavy gay overtones.. we don't call any of the masters of art "fags" or "queers". do we? im not saying frank miller and zack snyder are or aren't masters of anything... but it was an artistic expression.. if you're such a homophobe then you're too immature to see this movie anyway!

[SundayJam]

LAgirl's Youtube feature was funny. I have to admit, a girlfriend did tell me that watching The 300 was a bit like watching the Chippendales. She was not being complementary. By the way, the Chippendales are very gay. I especially liked the use of the Spartan Cheer (oohh..ahhh...oohh...aaahh) for comedic effect.

There are plenty of movies that are appropriately gay. Hell, Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang rocked. Val Kilmer played a great queer in that movie. No, there were no fags or queers in The 300, but it was plenty gay.

My favorite scene depicts a caped man in a thong doing a piroquet before launching a spear through the eye of a Battle-cat-looking-creature in order to save his He-man dressed Spartans. All the Persians are dressed like drag-queens.

[shazyb]

Originally Posted by SundayJam

LAgirl's Youtube feature was funny. I have to admit, a girlfriend did tell me that watching The 300 was a bit like watching the Chippendales. She was not being complementary. By the way, the Chippendales are very gay. I especially liked the use of the Spartan Cheer (oohh..ahhh...oohh...aaahh) for comedic effect.

There are plenty of movies that are appropriately gay. Hell, Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang rocked. Val Kilmer played a great queer in that movie. No, there were no fags or queers in The 300, but it was plenty gay.

My favorite scene depicts a caped man in a thong doing a piroquet before launching a spear through the eye of a Battle-cat-looking-creature in order to save his He-man dressed Spartans. All the Persians are dressed like drag-queens.

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAH VERY PUNNY

[Freedom25]

I really don't get it...why do u care that much about homosexual issues in this film? Homosexuality was common in the ancient world, even in greeks, persians and later in romans..so was nudity. Like it or not this is the reality. The whole point of this film is that 300 men had the courage to fight against thousands of persians, even if they knew that they were facing certain death. They fought and died for freedom, something that most of us consider as granted cause we didn't really have to fight for it...So I say let's stop being ridiculous!!!!

[SundayJam]

I got the Spartan chant wrong....it's, "AAAAHH OOOHH AAAHHH OOHH." sorry.

I just wanted to point out all the google sponsored searches at the bottom of the page. Gay this, gay that, and gay the other. If you guys don't see the humor in this...

Obviously the fact that this movie was overly gay did not turnoff the $ public. Labelling a movie a chick flick does not mean I don't like women. I like some chick flicks, and I don't like others. Likewise, a gay movie has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation. The 300 was very gay, but it was not about homosexuals or the relevance of homosexuals in history.