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Nolan's masterpiece.

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just curious, does this movie ever drag at some scenes, or does it feel long at all? just wondering because 2 and half hours sounds pretty long
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You've pretty much just told us absolutely nothing. Doesn't seem like you really saw it.
At the end of the post screening thread he said he would be vague so as not to spoil stuff. The two Face comments are what makes me expect more that he's telling the truth.
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He's the hero when Gotham needs one - thanklessly fighting the evil that all of us fear; but that we all have within us. When necessary he will turn and take the blame for all that has gone wrong. He is whatever the city needs him to be. He is unflinching and uncorruptable. He is Batman.

This theme runs throughout The Dark Knight - which is, the darkest, unforgiving Batman movie I have ever seen - and Christopher Nolan's masterpiece. We either die the hero, or live to see ourselves become the villian.

It seems the streets are safer in Gotham, and crime lords now fear the night - however, from the opening shot we get a forboding sense of the evil to come. And evil comes - in a opening sequence that I would never dare give away - we meet the Joker. I find it difficult to put into words exactly how i felt watching Heath Ledger portray the joker, now that he has passed - it almost pains me to think that he will never get to see this movie. He has created one of the most mercilessly evil characters I have ever seen on screen, one that actually disturbed me from time to time because i didn't know what he would do next - one that nearly gaurantees him an Oscar nomination. From the moment he shares his first "magic trick" with the table of crime lords, he will stun you - you will not look away when he is on screen. I think he will make some people unsettled.

As the crime lords align under one leader, "The Joker" - with one purpose - "Kill The Batman" - it may seem like our hero Batman takes the backseat here, and you would be slightly correct. While Christian Bale is amazing as always, this is Heath Ledger's show. But Batman is back with a slick new bike, new suit, and a mess of gadgets from Morgan Freeman - that Christopher Nolan of course takes ample time to explain. I have to say that Aaron Eckhart sometimes rubs me the wrong way, but he is great here as Harvey Dent - the shining ray of hope for Gothan, and Two Face - the evil he has become. Make no mistake, Two Face is not some gag reveal tacked on at the end of the film - no, Two Face is a seriously grotesque villian not to be taken lightly; heads you live, tails you die.

The series themes of violent escalation take effect, and things quickly become out of control as the Joker holds the city hostage and stages several nightmare scenarios - forcing innocents to make sadistic decisions. Christopher Nolan holds nothing back. Even when faith is lost, and it appears things are at their worst Batman thanklessly fights on - until final showdowns when decisions are made, and characters are defined.

This movie is beautifully paced by Nolan, with a very strong script. His action sequences are a marvel to behold, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg have been made to look like complete fools this summer. There is just a scant of CGI to be seen throughout - at one moment a helicopter was crashing and I was thinking, "here come the computer effects", but no - real flaming wreckage.

Dark Knight will excite you one moment, terrify you the next, and then will grip your heart to see the fall of several characters. Ledger's performance is not one you will forget quickly, he channeled evil for this role, and I am not taken aback easily. Nolan continues his grand opus that he started with Batman Begins, and will continue on into a third film i am sure. Which is good because Dark Knight ends with a slightly "to be continued" feel to it. This is the movie of the summer, and one of the smartest action movies ever made.

Now just try to hold your excitement for a few more weeks.

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If you liked the first one, than you will love this one. I guess what I mean is that Chistopher Nolan loves explaining and dialogue, so if you like that style of deep character development, then you will be totally engrossed. These are the sickest and most twisted characters we have in film right now.
Glad to hear it was good, dude!
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It actually might be Ledger's best scene, when he's being pummeled in the corner and just laughing knowing he's going to make Batman face such a tough decision - it's truly psychotic.

Was I too vague, I just wanted to express my feelings and discuss the major players, plot, theme without giving anything away? Do you guys want more?
Could you tell us more about specific scenes?(tiny spoilers might be nice)
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This movie is beautifully paced by Nolan, with a very strong script. His action sequences are a marvel to behold (an end over end tractor trailer flip had the audience gasping), George Lucas and Steven Spielberg have been made to look like complete fools this summer. There is just a scant of CGI to be seen throughout - at one moment a helicopter was crashing and I was thinking, "here come the computer effects", but no - real flaming wreckage.
How predictable. I don't see how an Indiana Jones movie is comparable to a Batman movie but I just knew that's exactly what the reviews would do. Innocent family fun vs. Epic Graphic Novel? Hmm yeah, that's completely fair and reasonable.
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Could you tell us more about specific scenes?(tiny spoilers might be nice)
Also, is this movie as epic as it's being made out to be and are the action sequences better filmed than "Batman Begins"

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is it as good as the HYPE is making it out too be. Will some people like Fanboys be dissapointed. And will the soccer moms complian about the look of Twoface.
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just wondering...what prevented you from giving it a 10/10?

and would you say this is ledgers best performance? assuming you've seen brokeback mountain or monsters ball.

is the hand to hand combat directed/shot better since batman begins hand to hand wasn't that great?

would you claim it to be the GREATEST comic book movie ever made?
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1. Was it better the the 1st one?


2.Was as good as you hoped for?

3.Did people clap at the end?

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just wondering...what prevented you from giving it a 10/10?

and would you say this is ledgers best performance? assuming you've seen brokeback mountain or monsters ball.

is the hand to hand combat directed/shot better since batman begins hand to hand wasn't that great?

would you claim it to be the GREATEST comic book movie ever made?
Ooh.. That's quite the challengin' questions ya just asked, Dawens.

Why do I feel a slight sense of skepticism?
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It actually might be Ledger's best scene, when he's being pummeled in the corner and just laughing knowing he's going to make Batman face such a tough decision - it's truly psychotic.

Was I too vague, I just wanted to express my feelings and discuss the major players, plot, theme without giving anything away? Do you guys want more?
I'm split. maybe jus minor spoilers, nothing major, but I have to ask, anything that we are competely not expecting, storyline wise (if yes then just write yes, I don't want too much spoiled)
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Ooh.. That's quite the challengin' questions ya just asked, Dawens.

Why do I feel a slight sense of skepticism?
oh of course i'm a bit skeptic. but if he really did see the movie i just would like to know his answers to those questions.
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which is, the darkest, unforgiving Batman movie I have ever seen - and Christopher Nolan's masterpiece.
ok so I had to sneek a peak at your review...

my reponse...YEESSS!!!! OMFG

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oh of course i'm a bit skeptic. but if he really did see the movie i just would like to know his answers to those questions.
Ahh, yes. Of course. That's understandable. But the way he described the movie was great. It amps the anticipation. However, in some cases that's bad. But we'll see how he replies, if he does.
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well what struck me was he gave the dark knight a 9.5/10 yet gave the orphanage a 10/10.

so i'm wondering what made him take 0.5 off the dark knight. however i completely agree with his other ratings for indy 4, iron man, and the hulk.
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He's the hero when Gotham needs one - thanklessly fighting the evil that all of us fear; but that we all have within us. When necessary he will turn and take the blame for all that has gone wrong. He is whatever the city needs him to be. He is unflinching and uncorruptable. He is Batman.

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The series themes of violent escalation take effect, and things quickly become out of control as the Joker holds the city hostage and stages several nightmare scenarios - forcing innocents to make sadistic decisions. Christopher Nolan holds nothing back. Tumbler and batpod chases ensue, evenly matched with bone crunching fist fights where Bale shows off the strength off his new glove hydrolics. Even when faith is lost, and it appears things are at their worst Batman thanklessly fights on - until two principle showdowns when decisions are made, and characters are defined.

This movie is beautifully paced by Nolan, with a very strong script. His action sequences are a marvel to behold (an end over end tractor trailer flip had the audience gasping), George Lucas and Steven Spielberg have been made to look like complete fools this summer. There is just a scant of CGI to be seen throughout - at one moment a helicopter was crashing and I was thinking, "here come the computer effects", but no - real flaming wreckage.

Dark Knight will excite you one moment, terrify you the next, and then will grip your heart to see the fall of several characters. Ledger's performance is not one you will forget quickly, he channeled evil for this role, and I am not taken aback easily. Nolan continues his grand opus that he started with Batman Begins, and will continue on into a third film i am sure. Which is good because Dark Knight ends with a slightly "to be continued" feel to it. This is the movie of the summer, and one of the smartest action movies ever made.

Now just try to hold your excitement for a few more weeks.

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There's 2 showdowns?! HOLY CRAP!!!!!
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well what struck me was he gave the dark knight a 9.5/10 yet gave the orphanage a 10/10.

so i'm wondering what made him take 0.5 off the dark knight. however i completely agree with his other ratings for indy 4, iron man, and the hulk.
I'd give Indy more like a 6.5, but other then that agree, I'm very curious as to what was wrong to lower the rating.
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It actually might be Ledger's best scene, when he's being pummeled in the corner and just laughing knowing he's going to make Batman face such a tough decision - it's truly psychotic.

Was I too vague, I just wanted to express my feelings and discuss the major players, plot, theme without giving anything away? Do you guys want more?
No, that was perfect as far as revealing details. Don't give away anything more.
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why a 9.5 but not a 10.

would you put it as one of the best movies you've ever seen?
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so how about the scarecrow?
as you said before he is in the film, at least a little bit.

does he have any more than a cameo?
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SPOILER*****SPOILER*******SPOILER*******

It is epic.

An opening sequence uses Batman 'copy cats' with shotguns led by the Scarecrow. Where is the real batman? CRASH - the tumbler comes bursting through the wall - but it's empty - just a distraction. From the shadows the copy cats get laid out one by one from bone crunching hits.

Later - There is an epic sequence when the Gotham swat team are escorting Harvey Dent in an armor car convoy (Joker publicly threatens his life) - when a tractor trailer pulls up next to the convoy. The doors fly open revealing the Joker and his men as they lay seige to the convoy from the belly of the truck. Batman gives chase in the tumbler but is wiped out. And just when we think he's done - the tumbler splits and the badpod launches out - the chase is on!
Not that I'm doubting anything you say, but I was aware that Nathan Crowley (the guy who designed the Tumbler) said that the Batpod wouldn't be coming out of the Tumbler. The whole idea of the Batpod coming out of the Tumbler is a little Burton-esque don't you think? Also the empty Tumbler--that seems very very Burton-esque. I seriously doubt Nolan would go in that direction but who knows? Also, I thought that the opening sequence was the Joker heist that was shown before I am Legend...Are you screwing with us? I mean, honestly, I'll believe you when you post a photo of you and your "ticket" on Rotten Tomatoes. Seriously, I can write a review without seeing the movie myself. So, until you give us solid proof that you're not ****ing with us, then I'll believe--and so will other people (for those who do believe, they'll believe in you more). How about telling us where you saw this "exclusive" engagement. Don't try to lie because it'll only make you look worse. Sorry about the bluntness. I'm just cautious. So are others.
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Not that I'm doubting anything you say, but I was aware that Nathan Crowley (the guy who designed the Tumbler) said that the Batpod wouldn't be coming out of the Tumbler. The whole idea of the Batpod coming out of the Tumbler is a little Burton-esque don't you think? Also the empty Tumbler--that seems very very Burton-esque. I seriously doubt Nolan would go in that direction but who knows? Also, I thought that the opening sequence was the Joker heist that was shown before I am Legend...Are you screwing with us? I mean, honestly, I'll believe you when you post a photo of you and your "ticket" on Rotten Tomatoes. Seriously, I can write a review without seeing the movie myself. So, until you give us solid proof that you're not ****ing with us, then I'll believe--and so will other people (for those who do believe, they'll believe in you more). How about telling us where you saw this "exclusive" engagement. Don't try to lie because it'll only make you look worse. Sorry about the bluntness. I'm just cautious. So are others.
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the batpod coming out of the tumbler actually would make sense because if you watch batman begins...batman is bent over or seems to be laying on his stomach when controlling the tumbler...if you look at how he is positioned on the bike, he is also seemingly to be laying on his stomach.
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