[Gorb Loaf]

Originally Posted by Firebender

I love how you say your a TRUE FAN, and you get something so completely wrong.

Bella never wanted a child until after she was pregnant with it.

That's some time.

...some.

[An Obscure Allusion To...]

[Xandril Zaax]

Originally Posted by An Obscure Allusion To...

Holy crap that rules!

[Firebender]

So, these are the rules at the forum of the Twilight Lexicon, the biggest Twilight fan site:

The new Breaking Dawn Manifesto:

Last fall we wrote a site manifesto stating where we envisioned the discussion on this site going, and defining what kind of group we were, and where we see this site heading. Now that we have had a week to digest Breaking Dawn, here’s where we stand.


Is Breaking Dawn the most perfect book ever written, or are any of the Twilight Saga Books the most perfect books of all time? It’s a matter of subjective opinion. Nonetheless, here’s where we stand:


1. The Twilight Saga is comprised of four books. It is not a trilogy. You may have wished that the books stopped at three, but they didn’t, and this site is a fan site for all the books in the Twilight Saga. We firmly stand by the canon as established in all four books. It all really happened. If you want to pretend Breaking Dawn never happened, that’s fine, but on this website there are no banners, avatars, sigs to that effect, and discussion acknowledges and concedes that all events contained in the four volume series exists. Denial of canon has no place on this website.

2. Bella is not a Mary-Sue, nor are any of the other characters in the series. If you think that you are on the wrong website. There is no character bashing on this site. Stating “Alice’s visions and perkiness really annoy me.” Isn’t character bashing. Stating, “pleez let’s get over failcob, the demon spawn, and the speminator.” is character bashing.

3. Stephenie Meyer’s writing nor the writing of any other professionally published author mentioned in passing on this site is to be compared to bad fanfiction, ever.

4. Vampire males are fertile, and female vampires are not. Stephenie evaded the question in PC number one. Pel personally refers to the word “most” as in “most bodily fluids are replaced by venom”, as “the most important 4-letter word in an interview", and alternatively “the adjective that rocked the fandom”. To this website’s satisfaction it explains how Bella is able to conceive. It is not debatable that it happens and was explained. We are open to discussion on the particulars, but debating that it can’t happen, or stating that the author lied is not tolerated here.

5. Stephenie Meyer is a member of the LDS, aka the Mormon church. One of the many values that the church exposes is the value of family. There is nothing wrong with valuing children. Stephenie is not trying to ram LDS values down anyone’s throat. If she were, her characters wouldn’t swear, wear tank tops, or self medicate with cough syrup. Like every author, parts of her life influence her writing, and a part of her life is her religion. C.S. Lewis and Tolkein’s Catholic values are evident in their work. Phillip Pullman’s atheism is evident in his. By no means are they trying to indoctrinate you any more than Stephenie is. Simply when religion or the lack thereof is a significant part of someone’s life it will affect their work, and that is not per say a bad thing. It gives you something to look at and think about. Accept it or reject it as is your choice.

6. Jacob Black continues to be a great character. He is not a pedophile. Stephenie did not always intend for a Bella/Jacob ending only to change her mind at the end. Jacob’s story was planned to play out the way it did.

7. If every time you post it is going to start with feelings along the lines of “it would have been better if…”. “I’m so disappointed that…”, “this was such a letdown because…” it takes the fun out of the boards. Sure there are debatable issues, but no one likes someone who is constantly the party pooper, or who is constantly the devil’s advocate.

8. You as a thinking human being can decide what you want to take away from any novel. We have a certain vision as a particular fansite, owned by particular people, why we like all of these books. We may not like every single part, but overall we like them. We are by no means stating every website should do what we have chosen to do. We would never dream of telling another website how to run their message boards. There are plenty of places where almost anything goes there are other more strict websites, and plenty in between. This is simply a matter of what works for us. As a privately owned website with no membership fee, we continue to reserve the right to moderate our boards in accordance with this philosophy.

9. Lastly, If the above items, that will shortly be enfolded into our regular site manifesto cause you to say, “Hey this site isn’t for me anymore.” Best wishes, and we do sincerely mean that. We say the above knowing full well we will lose people. At the same time there are others who will be staying around because of this policy. And of course there will be those who don’t care one way or the other.


Anyway, the above is in effect as of Monday. By then the majority of the hardcore English language fan will have most likely gotten the book and finished it, had a chance to emote with others, and can then decide all things considered “where do I stand?”

If you have any questions or concerns you can contact the following Admin/Moderators

Apparently, Deathly's philosophy is embraced in the world of Twilight fandom.

[OMG its ERIC]

There is nothing wrong with valuing children.

Wow.

[Lidane]

Originally Posted by Firebender

So, these are the rules at the forum of the Twilight Lexicon, the biggest Twilight fan site:


Apparently, Deathly's philosophy is embraced in the world of Twilight fandom.

It's also rejected by other fans as well.

[An Obscure Allusion To...]

That's... frightening.

[Xandril Zaax]

Originally Posted by Firebender

So, these are the rules at the forum of the Twilight Lexicon, the biggest Twilight fan site:


Apparently, Deathly's philosophy is embraced in the world of Twilight fandom.

Hmm, so essentially its restricted to crazed fans with their heads so far up their asses they cannot distinguish between good fiction and complete drivel.

[Gorb Loaf]

Originally Posted by Firebender

So, these are the rules at the forum of the Twilight Lexicon, the biggest Twilight fan site:

Apparently, Deathly's philosophy is embraced in the world of Twilight fandom.

If these are the kind of people Twilight attracts, it seems as good a reason as any to never touch these books. Apparently, "the fans suck" does work as a valid criticism in some cases.

This is the equivalent of if RT's rules had a clause stating anyone who doesn't like Star Wars and Batman gets banned.

[Joss Whedon]

Originally Posted by An Obscure Allusion To...

holy crap Tissue for Cry!

[An Obscure Allusion To...]

[Xandril Zaax]

Originally Posted by An Obscure Allusion To...

*falls out of chair*

Dear god, you one-up yourself every single time!

[Gorb Loaf]

Obscure is so full of win it's ridiculous.

[Xandril Zaax]

I think he pours win on his cereal every morning.

[OMG its ERIC]

Originally Posted by Gorb

Obscure is so full of win it's ridiculous.

I like how the rest of us just stopped trying days ago, knowing he'd upstage us effortlessly.

[An Obscure Allusion To...]

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I'm thinking this is perhaps the creepiest element.

[Xandril Zaax]

Originally Posted by An Obscure Allusion To...

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That is so messed up.

[Joss Whedon]

Originally Posted by An Obscure Allusion To...

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Wait, this is in the book?

[Gorb Loaf]

Originally Posted by Joss Whedon

Wait, this is in the book?

Yes.

[An Obscure Allusion To...]

Originally Posted by Joss Whedon

Wait, this is in the book?

Originally Posted by twilight nerds

6. Jacob Black continues to be a great character. He is not a pedophile. Stephenie did not always intend for a Bella/Jacob ending only to change her mind at the end. Jacob’s story was planned to play out the way it did.

[Joss Whedon]

and this is supposed to be romantic, I'm guessing. From the post he sounds more interested in having sex with the 7-year-old, it's just that the fact she looks 17 makes it convenient for him.

[Lidane]

Originally Posted by Twilight Lexicon

Bella is not a Mary Sue

LOLZ. That right there invalidates the rest of all that garbage. If they're so blind that they can't see the glaringly obvious Mary Sue staring them in the face, then there's no hope for these people.

[str8updancer]

If you want to pretend Breaking Dawn never happened, that’s fine, but on this website there are no banners, avatars, sigs to that effect, and discussion acknowledges and concedes that all events contained in the four volume series exists. Denial of canon has no place on this website.

1984 anyone? Who else is looking around for Big Brother right now?

There is no character bashing on this site. Stating “Alice’s visions and perkiness really annoy me.” Isn’t character bashing. Stating, “pleez let’s get over failcob, the demon spawn, and the speminator.” is character bashing.

Clearly no freedom of expression on this site either. People bash Potter characters all the time on their fan websites...they don't seem to care unless it gets inappropriate. I think Meyers crossed the inappropriate line through her writing...I wouldn't be worrying about fan feedback.

Stephenie Meyer’s writing nor the writing of any other professionally published author mentioned in passing on this site is to be compared to bad fanfiction, ever.

The fact that there even has to be a warning about this says volumes...

Stephenie is not trying to ram LDS values down anyone’s throat. If she were, her characters wouldn’t swear, wear tank tops, or self medicate with cough syrup.

But she IS ramming Edward into Bella...thus I think swearing and tank tops are the least of the Mormons concern.

...umm cough syrup? Whaaaaat...

Is Breaking Dawn the most perfect book ever written, or are any of the Twilight Saga Books the most perfect books of all time? It’s a matter of subjective opinion.

Well...I'm certainly glad they cleared that up for me.

[An Obscure Allusion To...]

I admire people who care passionately about their fandom, but when you have to make a manifesto to codify that fandom, and when one of the points in your manifesto is that a main character is not a pedophile, GET OUT OF THERE IT'S A TRAP.

[The Mighty Celestial]

Originally Posted by ZEZEtheX

Wait, how does he even get a boner to screw her with if there's no blood to rush to his ****?

Vampires are the living dead.
Therefore, his dick is always stiff.

[Lidane]

Originally Posted by str8updancer

...umm cough syrup? Whaaaaat...

There's a scene in the first Twilight book where Bella can't sleep, so she self-medicates with cough syrup to force the issue. It's actually referred to as gratuitous drug use in the book, likely due to Meyer's religious beliefs.

[Dreamlord]

Originally Posted by Lidane

There's a scene in the first Twilight book where Bella can't sleep, so she self-medicates with cough syrup to force the issue. It's actually referred to as gratuitous drug use in the book, likely due to Meyer's religious beliefs.

Jeez. So, no problem with drinking blood, etc., but have a little cough syrup and you're a junkie?

[Dreamlord]

Originally Posted by An Obscure Allusion To...

I admire people who care passionately about their fandom, but when you have to make a manifesto to codify that fandom, and when one of the points in your manifesto is that a main character is not a pedophile, GET OUT OF THERE IT'S A TRAP.

[Animastah]

Fury reigned in my head. It clouded everything else out.

It clouded everything else out.

out.


I just stared at the screen when I read that. Just sat there; jaw open for a couple of minutes. My eye twichted involuntarily.


I think im going insane.

I'm going to go look for something I wrote in 3rd grade to prove 3rd graders can write better than this ****.

[bmoviebuff]

Originally Posted by Raistlin Majere, Magus