Picasso and Braque Go to the Movies Reviews

  • Oct 02, 2013

    http://filmreviewsnsuch.blogspot.com/2013/10/picasso-and-braque-go-to-movies.html

    http://filmreviewsnsuch.blogspot.com/2013/10/picasso-and-braque-go-to-movies.html

  • Jul 23, 2013

    No Primary Sources I was torn by this. I mean, whether I was going to watch it at all or not. It's an interesting premise, but that said, I still just don't like Cubism. I went to a Picasso exhibit with my sister once, and we'd been there for perhaps twenty minutes before wondering why were there, as neither of us in fact like Picasso. I didn't even know who Georges Braque was. However, I do care quite a lot about the history of early cinema, and the description I got from the library was a bit vague as to exactly what the film was about. So okay, I watched it. It's true that I don't know enough about Cubism to be able to say for sure whether I believe its basic premise or not, but that's okay. That means we can use it as an object lesson about how to examine the premise in any work trying to prove a point. We can use it to figure out how to make a point, and how to determine if the point is convincing. It's not a hard lesson to learn, but it is an important one, and this is as good a place to go into it as any other. The premise is this. Both Pablo Picasso and Georges Braque, apparently good friends, though you couldn't prove it by me, were both heavily influenced in the development of Cubism by the films that were being made at the time, most notably the experimental work by such filmmakers as Georges Méliès. Certainly both men were of an age for it, having been born a little over six months apart in 1881 and 1882, respectively. Filmmaker Arne Glimcher presents a series of experts in both art and early film, including good ol' Martin Scorsese, to make the argument. Various paintings by both artists are shown. Many clips of early films, both French and American, are shown. A little historical background is given for just about everything--the men, the film, the art, and the distribution. We also see some of the works of the artists who are discussing the whole thing, so we can see how they were inspired in turn by Picasso and Braque, I guess. Okay, that's how it's presented. What does it have in favour of its premise? First, it's true that you can see the influence Picasso and Braque had on one another, to the point that I was not reliably sure which paintings were by whom unless they were actual famous Picassos that I'd seen elsewhere before and remembered. It is also true, though irrelevant, that you can seen the influence of Picasso and Braque on the more modern painters who are talking about the influence Picasso and Braque had on them. It's also possible to suppose that certain images seem to be repeated from clip to painting. We see large segments of some short (I assume it's a short, given the era) about an accordion and the sheer amount of paintings Picasso seems to have done of people with accordions or with the folds in their bodies made to look like accordions. There's a film historian who seems pretty certain, too. Is that it? Yes. The most important thing missing, I think, is any actual statements from Picasso or Braque. I'll admit that I'm not an art historian, leaving aside my dislike of Cubism, but I'm pretty sure both men spoke of being influenced by things like African tribal art, and no evidence is presented that either ever said they were influenced by Georges Méliès, Thomas Edison, or any other filmmaker. The accordion thing is definitely the weakest, of course, but essentially none of the discussion holds up to much in the way of scrutiny, at least not of its major premise. Yes, obviously, some of it is pretty non-controversial. You can see their influences on each other and on later artists. That's great. And some of the paintings do kind of look like some of the odder flim clips shown. However, that's not enough to base a premise on. It's possible that there is more true evidence than is shown here, but why wouldn't they show it? I do not deny that film has had a lasting influence on art over the last century or so. One need look no farther than Andy Warhol for that. However, I do not feel that this particular documentary has convincingly argued that these particular artists were influenced by film. Or at least, not at this stage in their careers. Picasso died in 1973 and Braque in 1963; there is very little doubt to me that they would come to be influenced by film like everyone else. It's all about the beginnings, though. I do not believe, based on what information is presented in the film, that there's any need to overturn the conventional notion that Cubism was based on Iberian sculpture and African art. Perhaps Georges Méliès is the secret missing link of Cubism, but I see no reason to believe that. Especially since Cubism is more than just Picasso and Braque in the first place, even in its earliest days.

    No Primary Sources I was torn by this. I mean, whether I was going to watch it at all or not. It's an interesting premise, but that said, I still just don't like Cubism. I went to a Picasso exhibit with my sister once, and we'd been there for perhaps twenty minutes before wondering why were there, as neither of us in fact like Picasso. I didn't even know who Georges Braque was. However, I do care quite a lot about the history of early cinema, and the description I got from the library was a bit vague as to exactly what the film was about. So okay, I watched it. It's true that I don't know enough about Cubism to be able to say for sure whether I believe its basic premise or not, but that's okay. That means we can use it as an object lesson about how to examine the premise in any work trying to prove a point. We can use it to figure out how to make a point, and how to determine if the point is convincing. It's not a hard lesson to learn, but it is an important one, and this is as good a place to go into it as any other. The premise is this. Both Pablo Picasso and Georges Braque, apparently good friends, though you couldn't prove it by me, were both heavily influenced in the development of Cubism by the films that were being made at the time, most notably the experimental work by such filmmakers as Georges Méliès. Certainly both men were of an age for it, having been born a little over six months apart in 1881 and 1882, respectively. Filmmaker Arne Glimcher presents a series of experts in both art and early film, including good ol' Martin Scorsese, to make the argument. Various paintings by both artists are shown. Many clips of early films, both French and American, are shown. A little historical background is given for just about everything--the men, the film, the art, and the distribution. We also see some of the works of the artists who are discussing the whole thing, so we can see how they were inspired in turn by Picasso and Braque, I guess. Okay, that's how it's presented. What does it have in favour of its premise? First, it's true that you can see the influence Picasso and Braque had on one another, to the point that I was not reliably sure which paintings were by whom unless they were actual famous Picassos that I'd seen elsewhere before and remembered. It is also true, though irrelevant, that you can seen the influence of Picasso and Braque on the more modern painters who are talking about the influence Picasso and Braque had on them. It's also possible to suppose that certain images seem to be repeated from clip to painting. We see large segments of some short (I assume it's a short, given the era) about an accordion and the sheer amount of paintings Picasso seems to have done of people with accordions or with the folds in their bodies made to look like accordions. There's a film historian who seems pretty certain, too. Is that it? Yes. The most important thing missing, I think, is any actual statements from Picasso or Braque. I'll admit that I'm not an art historian, leaving aside my dislike of Cubism, but I'm pretty sure both men spoke of being influenced by things like African tribal art, and no evidence is presented that either ever said they were influenced by Georges Méliès, Thomas Edison, or any other filmmaker. The accordion thing is definitely the weakest, of course, but essentially none of the discussion holds up to much in the way of scrutiny, at least not of its major premise. Yes, obviously, some of it is pretty non-controversial. You can see their influences on each other and on later artists. That's great. And some of the paintings do kind of look like some of the odder flim clips shown. However, that's not enough to base a premise on. It's possible that there is more true evidence than is shown here, but why wouldn't they show it? I do not deny that film has had a lasting influence on art over the last century or so. One need look no farther than Andy Warhol for that. However, I do not feel that this particular documentary has convincingly argued that these particular artists were influenced by film. Or at least, not at this stage in their careers. Picasso died in 1973 and Braque in 1963; there is very little doubt to me that they would come to be influenced by film like everyone else. It's all about the beginnings, though. I do not believe, based on what information is presented in the film, that there's any need to overturn the conventional notion that Cubism was based on Iberian sculpture and African art. Perhaps Georges Méliès is the secret missing link of Cubism, but I see no reason to believe that. Especially since Cubism is more than just Picasso and Braque in the first place, even in its earliest days.

  • Jun 20, 2012

    Martin Scorsese captures the relationship between cubism and filmography brilliantly

    Martin Scorsese captures the relationship between cubism and filmography brilliantly

  • Dec 29, 2011

    at least it brings me closer to appreciating cubism..

    at least it brings me closer to appreciating cubism..

  • Jul 09, 2011

    Who knew film had such a huge impact on these two artists? Although, it should have been obvious as both film (at that time) and cubism captured the concept of reality and fiction intermingling.

    Who knew film had such a huge impact on these two artists? Although, it should have been obvious as both film (at that time) and cubism captured the concept of reality and fiction intermingling.

  • Nov 01, 2010

    It was surprising to discover the academic acumen Scorsese has mastered in persuit of his craft.

    It was surprising to discover the academic acumen Scorsese has mastered in persuit of his craft.

  • May 26, 2010

    By far one of the best Art/Film documentaries I've ever seen! It's such an amazement at the thought that this doc touches on the mechanism with which Cinema influenced Art and not the other way around as you would have often expected! I love how this doc touches on the bond (and disagreements) between the 2 Cubist pioneers and really focus on just their parallels and the effect the early silent films had on their style, rather than seeing about the outer, more intriguing aspects of their respective personas (e.g. mistresses, addicitons, etc.). But the best part of it was seeing all these archival footages of over a hundred silent films that are not available for the general public any longer. No wonder Picasso and Braque were so captivated by them! I mean it's beyond me to imagine how these earliest filmmakers could tell the most interesting stories without any sound at all, and using a very cumbersome, limited device at that! But the magic of storytelling as elevated by the medium of FIlm worked splendidly on these 2 legendary artists that the form of Cubism was borne by the imagination sparked by their days at the cinemas and cafes in Paris. The documentary perfectly narrates the power of moving imagery amid the stasis of a painting with the aid of a handful of experts and even auteurs themselves (Scorsese, Schnabel) who have also been one way or another influenced by the distinct style of the early silent films. Informational and very engaging, "Picasso and Braque Go to the Movies" is the kind of motivation a budding storyteller such as myself would really need!

    By far one of the best Art/Film documentaries I've ever seen! It's such an amazement at the thought that this doc touches on the mechanism with which Cinema influenced Art and not the other way around as you would have often expected! I love how this doc touches on the bond (and disagreements) between the 2 Cubist pioneers and really focus on just their parallels and the effect the early silent films had on their style, rather than seeing about the outer, more intriguing aspects of their respective personas (e.g. mistresses, addicitons, etc.). But the best part of it was seeing all these archival footages of over a hundred silent films that are not available for the general public any longer. No wonder Picasso and Braque were so captivated by them! I mean it's beyond me to imagine how these earliest filmmakers could tell the most interesting stories without any sound at all, and using a very cumbersome, limited device at that! But the magic of storytelling as elevated by the medium of FIlm worked splendidly on these 2 legendary artists that the form of Cubism was borne by the imagination sparked by their days at the cinemas and cafes in Paris. The documentary perfectly narrates the power of moving imagery amid the stasis of a painting with the aid of a handful of experts and even auteurs themselves (Scorsese, Schnabel) who have also been one way or another influenced by the distinct style of the early silent films. Informational and very engaging, "Picasso and Braque Go to the Movies" is the kind of motivation a budding storyteller such as myself would really need!